>>>>> "Simon" == Simon Phipps <webmink at sun.com> writes:
>>>>> "Ben" == Ben Rockwood writes:

Ben> Regarding 4.2:
Ben> * This seems needless, excessive, and dangerious.  "violates the
Ben> Community's norms"?  That's very scary.

My objection to Section 4.2 is that it puts the *entire* process around
expulsion--the community's highest form of sanction--into an easily
modified process document.  I can see not wanting to hardwire too much
detail into the Constitution, but I'd like to see some sort of baseline.

Such a baseline would give examples of what merits expulsion (e.g.,
repeated suspensions for the same behavior) and who decides (I lean
towards a community vote).

Simon> Would you propose dropping the whole of section 4.2? I might
Simon> agree with that.

I don't think dropping Section 4.2 helps.  It would either have no
effect (sanctioning would up to some OGB process document) or it would
make matters worse (sanctioning would be ad-hoc).

mike

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