Hi Garrett - Your response does not make sense in the context of my message. I think people are trying to help, but the usage case is not clear (that was what I was tryign to get at - your complaints are about a special case - most people don't see the need to post to aliases they would never in a million years want to subscribe to. ARC members are that exception, IMO).
And I don't believe these people don't want your feedback - I think they don't know about this, which is why I suggested some wording for the 1-pager document to let them know this may be a problem for their project. It also sounds like a policy may help here, which can be written up and sent to the OGB for a vote, if needed. Certainly a good place to start is the suggestion box: http://wiki.genunix.org/wiki/index.php/Suggestion_Box Valerie On Mon, 11 May 2009, Garrett D'Amore wrote: > I give up. I don't care anymore if anyone receives my e-mail or not. > Frankly, the pain and suffering trying to "participate" in the open fora is > simply not worth it. The current "administration" simply doesn't care about > "participation", they just want to minimize their workload. Fine. I'll > minimize my "workload" and go back to contribution in the way I still can -- > by writing code. > > - Garrett > > Valerie Bubb Fenwick wrote: >> On Mon, 11 May 2009, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> >>> Simon Phipps wrote: >>>> >>>> On May 11, 2009, at 17:30, Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'm not sure I understand what you mean by repost. >>>> >>>> When I post a message to an OpenSolaris list and it bounces or is held >>>> for moderation, I just send it again from a different address. Rinse & >>>> repeat until it works. When a list is moderated this approach is more >>>> tedious as I have to go cancel the earlier attempts. >>>> >>>> Totally, impossibly broken. >>>> >>>> S. >>>> >>> Well, if the list was properly moderated, you could simply wait for the >>> moderators to allow it. A *smart* moderator would just add the address to >>> the whitelist the first time it occurred. So you'd only have to do deal >>> with this once, ever. (But you'd have to wait for it.) >>> >>> When my message bounces, I often just give up. This does mean that some >>> lists miss out on key comments I make to their ARC cases. But I guess >>> this was an active choice that the list owners made, so they get (or >>> rather don't get) what they deserve. >> >> Hi Garrett - >> >> I'm guessing you hit this a lot due to your ARC duties, right? Where >> someone >> sends in a case for review & copies their own iteam or interest alias, but >> *you* can't send mails to their alias. >> >> This seems like something the ARC could document around that would help, >> something like: >> "i-team alias (must be postable by anyone during review period):" >> >> on the 1-pager form. >> >> of course, someone submitting the case may not have control over the alias. >> >> Someone had before suggested that, if there was such a way, it would be >> nice if any address subscribed to any opensolaris.org alias could post >> to all others, but I don't know enough about our mailmain instance to know >> if such intelligence in the tool is possible. >> >> Valerie > > Valerie -- Valerie Fenwick, http://blogs.sun.com/bubbva Solaris Security Technologies, Developer, Sun Microsystems, Inc. 17 Network Circle, Menlo Park, CA, 94025.
