Alan Burlison <Alan.Burlison at sun.com> writes:

> Keith M Wesolowski wrote:
>
>>> out and do it properly.  To take your example above, I can see no reason 
>>> why the DTrace CG would choose to run its projects in another CG - there 
>>> appears to be no real benefits in that approach.  And if the ON CG dies 
>>> (as it should), it wouldn't be an option anyway.
>> 
>> Please tell us who is responsible for ON itself in that scheme.
>> Specifically, who will perform the functions the Sun C-teams performed
>> in the past, and by what authority will they do so?
>
> In the existing Solaris Engineering structure it most definitely isn't 
> the role of the cteam to own projects.  The cteam ensures that 
> development standards and practices are followed, coordinates the 
> integration of large project, oversees the operation and building of the 
> gate and acts as an advisor to project iteams.  It most certainly does 
> *not* own implementation projects.  The current ON CG is a radical 
> departure from that model, not an example of it.

The current ON CG is disfunctional, unapproachable (as a CG), and
barely extant.

> I have no problem with, for example, there being a Consolidation CG with 
> an ON Project underneath it, or even having ON as a CG.  I do have a 
> *big* problem with the ON CG 'owning' implementation projects as it 
> means there is a clear conflict of interests for members of the ON CG 
> who will be wearing both their 'cteam' and 'iteam' hats.  The existing 
> Solaris Engineering structure provides a vital 'checks and balances' 
> mechanism that is completely absent from the ON CG.
>
> The current ON CG is clearly a bad idea, and should be restructured or 
> replaced.

I would suggest that making it function exactly as described above
would be a great start.

Communities do not "own" projects, they endorse them, and provide
advice and guidance, exactly as you described the C-Team giving
projects teams guidance above.

-- Rich

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