>they would have been in a much weaker position to "control" 
>Java, but it might actually have become a successful market 
>factor instead of an intellectual curiosity and the value to 
>Sun might have been tremendously bigger.

        What planet are you from? I'm sorry for the snide comment,
but if you seriously contend that Java is merely "an intellectual 
curiosity", then either you're out of touch with the corporate/
online world or you have a REALLY interesting definition of the 
term "intellectual curiosity." Java is a growing force in the 
market, and is used in both intranet and online applications. 
It's present in packages and applets all over the web and in 
on-the-shelf applications as well. It fills a niche that gives it 
a good foothold, and it's growing. Just because you and/or the 
Open Source Community pooh-pooh it doesn't mean that it doesn't 
exist.

>> Unless you can honestly and openly answer the question "Why 
>>CAN'T I put 'Designed to work with Dungeons and Dragons' on the 
>>box?"

>1)  Because you're not us, 

>2)  Because consumers have a right to expect a consistency 

>3)  Because "Dungeons & Dragons" has a value outside of the RPG 

        These, I agree with, though. I respect the D&D brand and
the power it has...

-- 
Joseph Cochran
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