Steve Creech wrote:
I've read/watched the "beat the dead mongoose" argument for some time now without getting too involved, but really people, is the latest round of this necessary?I thought we _stopped_ beating on Mongoose, and we were going to leave them alone! (*sigh*)
Now, having said that, its apparent that everyone wants the ideal situation of every publisher producing nothing but 100% open content so they can use it without worrying about whether its product identity.No. Everyone wants Clear Indication sufficient that they _don't_ have to contact the publisher! That's it!
Well, a polite email goes a heck of a lot farther in getting permission to use material than a demand to clean up their ogc so you don't have to go to the trouble to comprise a short inquiry email.I can send a polite e-mail to WotC to use non-OGC as well. If a publisher's material is as hard to use as unrelease rules from Wizards of the Coast (who _isn't_ using the OGL!) then they're simply doing it wrong.
What it boils down to is that regardless of what folks on this list may think, it is no one other than Wizard's responsible to police the OGL. It is their license and their responsibility. And wishes (or open sentiments) that someone should get sued just to set everyone else in line is about as out of line as some of the comments on this list regarding Mongoose's attitude. Let's leave the OGL police to WotC and focus on more constructive things than publisher bashing...1: I, and no one else, have wished anyone to be sued. We've wished for folk to change their habits, but that's something else entirely. (And we've _bemoaned_ that the only thing that seems able to change some people is lawsuits--precisely because we don't want that to happen.)
2: Any upstream publisher can police the OGL. If I take your work and don't properly follow the OGL or contact you for special permission, then you have every bit as much legal standing as Wizards of the Coast does to take me to court and force me to comply (again, something that I'd hate to see happen--and is, apparantly, completely unnecessary as every publisher or freelancer who's been notified of a violation has taken steps to clarify.)
3: Yes, let's drop the whole "publisher bashing" and focus on cconstructive things--like prostlytizing the correct way to use the OGL. If that seems like "publisher bashing", then we need to be more general in our discussion--and the publisher in kind should consider altering its policies.
DM
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