On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 9:00 AM Toomas Soome via oi-dev <oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote: > > > > > On 11. Jan 2021, at 09:39, Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev > > <oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote: > > > > Maybe... I'm impolite. But what if I'm just visit here once for this > > purpose then? > > > > I only care about the result. Maybe I'm posted on the wrong mailing list. > > Maybe OI-discuss more fit? > > > > The only thing I want to see and to care is: the next version of OI, nano > > is included alongside of vi in the text and minimal version. > > > > It's just simple as that. Why make thing complicated? > > > > The problem is, you are asking to expand minimal version, by definition, > after such expansion, the minimal is not minimal any more. So, the decision > has to me made - should the definition of minimal be changed, or should user > who has decided to use minimal image, learn how to enter ‘pkg install nano’.
hello As a user, I don't want my system to be polluted by unwanted packages. I prefer installing what I want. For example, for text or code editor, I prefer another program than nano. When searching for a package, i use http://pkg.openindiana.org/hipster/en/index.shtml (in case it helps) best regards Vincent Torri >If you are making decision to use minimal image, you should be aware that such >image is missing many things and is not intended to be used by someone who >does not know how to use the system. > > PS: I see no problem to include nano with larger image. > > my 2 cents. > > rgds, > toomas > > > ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 14:19:14 +0700 Tim Mooney via oi-dev > > <oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote ---- > > > >> In regard to: Re: [oi-dev] Shipping the nano editor alongside with vi, > >> Hung...: > >> > >>> Yes, it's just a single line. But why you give me a read-only file and > >>> asked me to modified it? > >>> > >>> It's much more simpler for developer with write access to do it, not me. > >>> And it's within a second, just a single line. > >> > >> I don't know if other languages and cultures have an equivalent, but there > >> is a proverb[1] that applies here: > >> > >> If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day. > >> If you teach a man to fish, you feed him for a lifetime. > >> > >> Teaching someone (or helping them learn) how to do something is often > >> more useful than just doing something (once) for them. > >> > >> Aurélien is trying to help you to learn to fish. > >> > >> Learning how to clone oi-userland, create a branch, make a very simple > >> change like this, and submit a pull request (PR) is very useful knowledge > >> to have for anyone that wants to contribute to OI. There are certainly > >> other ways to contribute, but since you're posting to the oi-dev list, > >> it seems like you might be interested in the development process. Knowing > >> the workflow for submitting a change is potentially beneficial to you. > >> > >> Yes, he could do it in just a couple minutes. But then you've missed an > >> opportunity to learn something that might allow you to contribute to OI. > >> > >> [1] the origin of this proverb appears to be quite contested, but it > >> seems like it might be Lao-Tzu. > >> > >> Tim > >> > >>> ---- On Sun, 10 Jan 2021 00:49:50 +0700 Aurélien Larcher > >>> <aurelien.larc...@gmail.com> wrote ---- > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 9:09 AM Hung Nguyen Gia via oi-dev > >>>> <oi-dev@openindiana.org> wrote: > >>>> This should be done for none desktop OI flavors: OI text and OI minimal. > >>>> > >>>> It will help novice user like me very much. Please consider it, > >>>> developers. I have trouble using the vi editor even though I have my > >>>> mobile phone with me as a backup showing the vi tutorial. And I think > >>>> many other novice users have the same trouble as me. > >>>> > >>>> Doing as Fedora is a step too far: > >>>> https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Fedora-33-Nano-Is-The-Default > >>>> > >>>> I only asked for shipping nano alongside with vi. The link I put above > >>>> just to note that nano has pretty much become the default editor on the > >>>> Linux world and most of us come from Linux. It will be easier for us. > >>>> Thanks. > >>>> > >>>> Hello, > >>>> basically one could add the nano package to: > >>>> > >>>> https://github.com/OpenIndiana/oi-userland/blob/oi/hipster/components/meta-packages/install-types/includes/minimal > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards, > >>>> > >>>> Aurélien > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> oi-dev mailing list > >>>> oi-dev@openindiana.org > >>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> --- > >>>> Praise the Caffeine embeddings > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> oi-dev mailing list > >>>> oi-dev@openindiana.org > >>>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > >>>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> oi-dev mailing list > >>> oi-dev@openindiana.org > >>> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > >>> > >> > >> -- > >> Tim Mooney tim.moo...@ndsu.edu > >> Enterprise Computing & Infrastructure / > >> Division of Information Technology / 701-231-1076 (Voice) > >> North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND > >> 58105-5164_______________________________________________ > >> oi-dev mailing list > >> oi-dev@openindiana.org > >> https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > >> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > oi-dev mailing list > > oi-dev@openindiana.org > > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > oi-dev mailing list > oi-dev@openindiana.org > https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev _______________________________________________ oi-dev mailing list oi-dev@openindiana.org https://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/oi-dev
