On 2021-01-11 12:59, Bob Friesenhahn wrote:
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021, Chris wrote:
While vim(1) is my "goto" editor, and vi(1) really isn't difficult. My frustration comes in the fact that each OS implements a different version, with different
keyboard macros. Which quickly made ee(1) my goto when I was working in a
"constrained" env (like dropping to single-user), and just needed to make some
simple edit(s). BTW I'm the maintainer for ee(1) on FreeBSD. ;-)

I have not tried 'ee'. The biggest gripe I have with 'vim' is that it is way too fancy by default. For example, I often copy and paste using the mouse (especially for system administration purposes) but 'vim' detects a mouse and prevents simple copy and paste of text from one window to another. The wiz-bang features can be disabled but this is problematic when one is configuring a new system. It is necessary to fix the editor configuration (perhaps using cat to a file rather than
an editor) before the editor is usable.

Other problems I have is with editors (e.g. vim) and commands which "colorize" everything. There seems to be an implicit assumption regarding the background color (maybe black?). But I have already set my default background color to a light background which is pleasing for my old eyes and then I can barely make out
the text on the screen.
Editors, like DEs (Desktop Environments) are a *very* personal thing. Getting it
right for *everyone* is a lost cause. ;-)
OTOH importing all your dot files immediately after an install, can go a long way
to getting it right. I like Bright on Dark for my old eyes. ;-)

It would be good if fresh systems would default to fewer quirky wiz-bang features
yet allow them to easily be enabled for a Linux-like experience.
I just this moment completed a fresh OI install, and lo-and-behold, there was a
copy of nano available. Without requiring a pfexec pkg install nano. :-()

--Chris

Bob

--
~40yrs of UNIX and counting

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