On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Ross Gardler <rgard...@opendirective.com>wrote:
> On 8 August 2011 17:35, Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> wrote: > > I propose we establish a convention to insert proposed mailing list names > > into the subject of any message to this list that relates to a subject > that > > could potentially require its own list long-term. From scanning the list > I > > suggest the following initial tags: > > > > [Wiki] - the migration of the OOo wiki to Apache, including page design > > [Repo] - the migration of the OOo source to a suitable combination of > VCSs > > > > If we find that these tags have sustained use over a reasonable period > (say > > 45 days) that would result in a viable mailing list, I further propose > > creation of a new list where they could both be hosted (such as admin@ ) > > +1 > > Although I'd suggest the best way to make this happen is to just start > doing it and let people follow suit if they find it useful. Consistent > tags will emerge, no need to define them in advance (although it is > certainly helpful to have examples of use like this - thanks Simon). > > +1 (sometimes it's better to read some more unread and older mails before answering one) Juergen > Ross > > > > > > S. > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <marcus.m...@wtnet.de> > wrote: > > > >> Am 08/08/2011 05:23 PM, schrieb Simon Phipps: > >> > >> My experience of various communities over the last decade suggests Ross > is > >>> exactly right here. Don't start new mailing lists until we've used the > >>> proposed list names as subject-line tags and measured the traffic using > >>> them. Once we know there is enough traffic under a specific tag, it's > then > >>> good to create a list with that name if everyone agrees. > >>> > >>> S. > >>> > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> BTW: > >> I'm using subdirs in my mail account to sort my mails. So, no need to > keep > >> every mail in the inbox itself and then loose the overview. ;-) > >> > >> Marcus > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> On 8 Aug 2011, at 13:27, Ross Gardler wrote: > >>> > >>> On 8 August 2011 12:45, Rob Weir<apa...@robweir.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 8, 2011 at 7:00 AM, Wolf Halton<wolf.hal...@gmail.com> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> I would like to propose breaking out a couple more mailing lists > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> Be careful about splitting lists too early. I realise that traffic is > >>>> very high right now but it will die down. Splitting lists splits the > >>>> community, at this stage we are trying to build community. > >>>> > >>>> There are better techniques than splitting the community up. For > >>>> example, the list should adopt a practice of tagging subject lines so > >>>> that people can filter appropriately. Sorry rather then a "Web > >>>> Content" list mails in this topic are should have subjects of the form > >>>> "[web] foo". > >>>> > >>>> I certainly see the need here. But I wonder if we can make it a > >>>>> general "sysops" or "operations" list and have it be the place for > >>>>> admins/moderators of the wiki, the phpBB forums, Bugzilla, etc., to > >>>>> coordinate. I think we want to encourage these groups to stay in > close > >>>>> contact with each other. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Generally the pull requirements for forums are less effective for > >>>> community building than the push of mailing lists, at least where we > >>>> are talking about technical users. EMail clients are very powerful, > >>>> forums are not. Email works offline, forums do not. etc. > >>>> > >>>> Why? Because we can easily see the > >>>>> advantages of linking these systems together in advanced ways. For > >>>>> example: > >>>>> > >>>>> 1) Easy way to promote a support forum question into a bugzilla issue > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> No advantage over mail lists. > >>>> > >>>> 2) Easy way to initiate a search of the documentation before entering > >>>>> a support forum post > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Can be useful for user focussed resources but the initial proposal is > >>>> for "administering the > >>>> wiki daily operations would go, and documentation of versions of OOo". > >>>> Are you really going to force admins to do this, or are you going to > >>>> trust them? > >>>> > >>>> 3) Content analytics performed on support forum to identify new > >>>>> candidates for FAQ items > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> No advantage over mail lists. > >>>> > >>>> Ross > >>>> > >>> > > > > > > -- > > Simon Phipps > > +1 415 683 7660 : www.webmink.com > > > > > > -- > Ross Gardler (@rgardler) > Programme Leader (Open Development) > OpenDirective http://opendirective.com >
