So, I'm not the only one that thinks reading this list is a heavy task. ^^;
On 2011/08/12 10:56, Rob Weir said: > On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 9:48 PM, Simon Phipps <si...@webmink.com> wrote: >> >> On 12 Aug 2011, at 02:41, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 8:34 PM, Jean Weber <jeanwe...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On 12/08/2011, at 10:25, "Dennis E. Hamilton" <dennis.hamil...@acm.org> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> +1 on putting materials like the suggested list-post subject categories >>>>> on the community wiki. I see no reason why it needs to be maintained >>>>> anywhere else requiring higher ceremony. >>>>> >>> >>> No one is going to find it on the wiki. The new list subscriber, >>> signing up on the list, is typically going to find the list from this >>> page: >>> >>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html >>> >>> That is where the mailing list info is, the instructions on how to >>> subscribe. That is also where we point to other mailing list >>> guidelines. It is an ideal place to put the suggested topic tags, >>> putting the mailing list info together in one place. >> >> How about adding a link from there to the wiki? >> > > Because you're going to get negligible click through. You might get > some visitors to accidentally have their eyeballs glance over the list > of topic tags if you have it there, in the page, right next to to list > information that are seeking. They might pick some of this up in > passing. But I expect that very few visitors will click through to a > list of topic tags, unless that was the purpose of their visit. And > most cases it won't be. And if it is actually the purpose of their > visit, then having the info right there, without requiring a click, is > even better, right? > > Let's do this in a way that makes the website most useful for the > visitor to the website, rather than falling back to less useful > approach that may be easier for the author. > > You can just submit a patch for the website. This isn't rocket > science. No iCLA required. You don't even need markdown if you don't > want to bother. Just post something that looks patch like, e.g.: > > ----------------- > > Subject: [PATCH] Topic tags for ooo-dev mailing list > > In first section of the mailing list webpage [1] please add the following: > > In order to facilitate automated filtering of threads, etc., mailing > list posters are requested to clearly identify the topic of their > posts using one of the following tags: > > etc/ > > [1] http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html > > > ----------------- > > Any committer could then take that enhancement and add it to the > website. Note that by sending this as a patch you also inform the > continuing membership of the list of the new topic tags. If you > merely put that info on the wiki, then it would not be noticed, unless > of course you sent a note to the list. But in that case, what effort > have you really saved yourself? > >>> >>> If topic tags are changing at so rapid a rate that updating the >>> website for them is inconvenient, then we're probably misusing them. >>> If they are meant to be hints to human readers, then they can be fluid >>> and change frequently and allow small variations, like Twitter tags. >>> In that case, there is no need to document them. Subscribers learn >>> the "folksonomy" by observation. But if they are being used for email >>> inbox filter rules, hard coded into subscriber mail clients, then >>> these better be relatively fixed and we lose nothing by putting them >>> on the website. >>> >>> >>>>> - Dennis >>>>> >>>> >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> Jean >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> -- Best regards, imacat ^_*' <ima...@mail.imacat.idv.tw> PGP Key http://www.imacat.idv.tw/me/pgpkey.asc <<Woman's Voice>> News: http://www.wov.idv.tw/ Tavern IMACAT's http://www.imacat.idv.tw/ Woman in FOSS in Taiwan http://wofoss.blogspot.com/ OpenOffice.org http://www.openoffice.org/ EducOO/OOo4Kids Taiwan http://www.educoo.tw/
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