On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 12:47 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > I agree let's not make it adversarial. But I would be interested to > know why Simon speaks up in favor of us have a congress-sized PMC, but > has not made a similar recommendation for TDF/LO.
Because there is no such thing as a PCM. The Engineering Steering Committee has an advisory role. And most of the time a good half of the dev/qa that join the weekly call are not 'officially' member of the ESC. There is no 'binding' vote... in fact there is no vote at all. Decision are made by those who do, and so far the role of ESC has more been one of coordination, in the sens of sharing and communicating what is happening rather than 'deciding'. So really, who got what 'title' or what 'distinction' is very far from the daily concern. Note that there is not even the requirement to be a TFD member to be on the ESC... not for that matter to have commit access. And you asked: who approve 'release': well roughly the calendar modulated by Bugzilla and QA volunteers. Norbert