TJ--
Thanks for answering my questions and the update on all this!
Great that you're on top of all this! :)
On 10/21/2011 04:37 PM, TJ Frazier wrote:
On 10/21/2011 18:48, Kay Schenk wrote:
On 10/21/2011 01:31 PM, TJ Frazier wrote:
Dave,
I want to be very sure about this, because I can and will post the
notices on the live wiki ...
On 10/21/2011 14:35, Dave Fisher wrote:
Hi All,
I had a conversation with Andrew Rist this morning. Here is what I
have found out about what will happen in one week.
(1) Forums and Mediawiki will be cloned and moved to Apache
Infrastructure on top of the work that TerryE and the Apache Infra
team accomplished. Andrew, Gavin and TJ will be doing the heavy
lifting starting with some practice conversions.
I read this to mean that Infra has devised a way to support the live MW
wiki satisfactorily. YEA!! from me, too. Well done, guys. I will post
the outage notices Kay recommends as soon as I can, after confirmation.
I have posted a "Salvage Plan" at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Community+Wiki+Services
but this is much better.
I think what you've got here looks good as much as I know about MW,
which isn't much.
Q1: WILL user accounts be migrated or will folks need to re-sign?
There is no technical reason for needing to re-sign. In the absence of
direction from the PPMC, they won't need to.
When Terry created the test copy, he included a step to scramble the
existing passwords, thus making the wiki copy effectively read-only.
There is no technical need for this.
Q2: If folks re-use existing user names, can they, in fact, get to the
same info as before with the same rights? In other words, are the
administrative aspects part of the "load" or must this be done some
other way?
Briefly, yes. The admin rights are part of the load. As a "bureaucrat"
(wiki role) I can add or delete rights for anybody. I would expect to
get some direction from the PPMC on this, but I am assuming that the
ranks of administrators ("sysops" in popular parlance) and bureaucrats
should be winnowed of non-active members, which is most of them.
In theory, the PPMC could tell me to add a couple of new bureaucrats,
remove my own rights, and go back to being an ordinary user. Which I
could and would do, though I would recommend against it. --/tj/
Does Apache Infra plan to change dns resolution of user.services.oo.o
and wiki.services.oo.o to point to the ooo-forum.a.o and ooo-wiki.a.o
domain names as of this transition?
(2) downloads.services.oo.o goes away this needs attention. This is
the major unknown.
We do have a version of this page in the website migration. It is
rather clean. I think the page handles a missing mirror brain, but I
don't know if it handles it well. The version that was cleaned up is
in the AOOo project svn in ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/download/.
(3) extensions.services.oo.o and templates.services.oo.o are hosted at
OSUOSL and will be retained. They still need work on Drupal upgrades,
the OSUOSL admins have turned their noisy Nagios checks off and we
have to report outages to supp...@osuosl.org ourselves. They are
usually responsive by the business day AM in US Pacific Time Zone.
(4) All other *.services.oo.o are going away. If any of these are
important to you please recall that Andrew Rist has mentioned that he
does have a backup of everything. Please contact him about other
services, if you would like to resurrect them.
(5) Some consideration will need to be made about changes needed to
the Kenai based www.openoffice.org due to the services change.
These topics can't wait, but I don't have any more bandwidth for AOOo
until Sunday night or Monday.
Regards,
Dave
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