On 10/31/11 5:55 AM, Dave Fisher wrote:

On Oct 30, 2011, at 9:37 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:

The stuff you are doing is too arcane for me and not where I notice problems.  
I notice things in the content itself at the staging site 
(ooo-site.apache.org).  I might be able to learn to edit the ooo/ooo-site 
pages, but I don't want to get ahead of myself.

Not sure which works better, bugzilla for some, wiki for others.  Just not sure.  Is 
there a bugzilla "project" for these.  www?

- Dennis

PS: Examples - the sort of thing I am noticing

1. I had a lengthy back-and-forth with Larry Rosen on Terms of Use and have 
guidance that I think will work with regard to wiki, forum, and site pages.  
(Not the same for all of them.)  Also about Trademarks.  (What you have at the 
bottom of the main pages is close, others need more care.  May be a few 
variations to use.)

Good. I wanted some guidance here. CWiki?

Or, let's find the pages and make the changes.


2. A Q about the bottom-of-page use of the feather and mention of "the Apache 
CMS."

I've asked [email protected] in general about the look. What's your question? I 
just sort of came up with it and now I'm asking too.


3. Bug on the left of this page:<http://ooo-site.apache.org/es/>  above the 
blue bar.

You mean "We're sorry"? I'm not sure either. There are lots of little flaws 
like that. URLs are somewhat random, some are fully qualified and others are properly 
relative. This includes css and js that are not always found. These are the kinds of 
errors that will take some tedious time to handle.

4. This page, for Downloads, linked from the ES home page, has a PayPal button and solicits $25 
donations for downloads:<  http://ooo-site.apache.org/es/programa/index.html>.  The 
solicitations are for the "oooES" PayPal account.

Yes, I've flagged that as well - Alexandro should be able to explain oooES. I 
think it is in a similar category to Team OpenOffice. I've found a paypal 
button in the Greek site to an individual for translation work. Not sure about 
others yet. I'll know when we're complete. These were all sanctioned at some 
point and I think the PPMC will need to decide policy in conversation with 
[email protected].


i think it's very confusing to have this individual donation places and i would remove them all. Furthermore i would suggest that we really rethink our portal "www.openoffice.org" in the near future. I don't see the necessity of having too much different content on the localized pages. A 1:1 translation of the English pages should be ok for all. Maybe each regional page can have their own news feed to announce local events but that's it. We should keep it simple.

All the community work and information specific to regional communities should move into the wiki and forum from my point of view. Main development work and communication around this is done in English anyway.

And i don't think that this is similar to Team OpenOffice.org because Team OpenOffice.org was the only official instance that was allowed to collect donations from the OOo sites. All others were not allowed as far as i know. They were tolerated but not more. Don't ask me why, i have never understood this.

well, that is my personal opinion

Juergen


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