Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

[Jürgen Schmidt]

Hi Pedro,

On 11/22/11 1:52 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:

Hmmm ...

Nevermind, OpenPKG is rather bulky.
Unfortunately portable packagers seem not
to be too common anymore.

the point is simply that we have to understand the whole packaging 
process better. I thought it was worse to check if it's possible to use 
a system epm. Sometimes things become easier over time or even obsolete. 
But in this case it seems that we have to stick with the 3.7 epm and the 
patches we have because they are very specific for OOo.

I hope that we can simplify this packaging process in the future a 
little bit because we can concentrate on one product only. In the past 
all processes here were designed to make it possible to build a 
StarOffice/Oracle Office version on top of it.

The problem is that we have to analyze the whole process to understand 
how it works. In the past one developer worked full-time on this 
packaging stuff ...

Juergen


Pedro.

--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni<p...@apache.org>  wrote:

From: Pedro Giffuni<p...@apache.org>
Subject: Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 7:24 AM
Hi Juergen;

I dont have an easy solution for you but perhaps
you should try OpenPKG, as it produces RPM
and has a better license:
      http://www.openpkg.net/

And dont worry about FreeBSD as none of those
packagers work with the new pkgng format.

Cheers,

Pedro.

--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Jürgen Schmidt<jogischm...@googlemail.com>
wrote:

From: Jürgen Schmidt<jogischm...@googlemail.com>
Subject: Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 5:57 AM
Hi,

i would like to gave a short update.

I stumbled over problems using a downloaded epm 4.2
(http://www.epmhome.org), build and install it on a
Fedora 16 system (rpm based).

The epm call failed to build the rpm packages. It
seems
that epm triggers /bin/rpm with some parameters that
are not
accepted. I don't understand why at the moment.

I expect also problems on other systems (e.g.
FreeBSD,
solaris, ...). To move forward for now i plan to go
back to
use the version 3.7 of epm and apply our patches.

The plan is to handle it similar to dmake and
investigate
to a later time in more detail into the packaging
process. I
assume there is still some room for improvements ones
the
process is understand completely.

But at the moment i would like to focus and to move
forward
with the IP clearance. Means epm is only a build tool
and
not part of a binary release or a source release.

The idea is to download the source directly from the
homepage and apply our patches and use it.
Alternatively epm
can be specified directly with the configure switch
-with-epm.

Any opinions or ideas. I highly appreciate any useful
idea
that help us to move forward.

Juergen


On 11/16/11 3:36 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 11/15/11 5:00 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
Hi,

i am currently trying to build with a system
available epm tool. And i
am right now building on a Ubuntu 11.10 with
epm
4.2. Does anybody have
built with a system epm on a Linux system?


a short update on this topic. I was able to build
an
office on an Ubuntu
11.10 using the system epm tool 4.2.

With disabling a packagepool process in
instsetoo_native the build
finished and i got my deb packages. The
difference
compared to an
earlier build is that the package names has
changed a
little bit and
that i have directories with the same name in
the
.../DEPS folder which
were probably the base for the packages. But that
is a
minor issue i
would say.

Anyway the installed office works and i have not
yet
identified a real
problem. But that was to easy and i expect more
problems on other
platforms. Solaris (that i can't build) and a
rpm
based Linux system, ...

I am no expert in this packaging area on all the
different systems and
may be we lose the relocation feature or
something
else. So if anybody
has deep knowledge with epm or packing of deb or
rpm
packages and is
interested to help, please contact me. Any kind
of
help is appreciated.

Juergen