Ariel's unofficial developer builds are now linked to from the podling site.
http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/developer-faqs.html#where_can_i_download_developer_builds Rob setup this FAQ earlier today and when Ariel posted just now I added the link to her page. Good luck, Certainly the goal for the nightly builds is to do this on a nightly basis ... but that is critical work in progress. Go builders! Go testers! Regards, Dave On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:26 AM, Mechtilde wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hello Dave, > > > Am 02.01.2012 19:59, schrieb Dave Fisher: >> >> On Jan 2, 2012, at 10:41 AM, Raphael Bircher wrote: >> >>> Hi Dave >>> >>> Just to clarify. Mechtilde is a contributor since day 0 - 7 years. She is >>> one of the moast experienced QA here, and a verry skilled manual tester. So >>> she is not a newbe at all. >> >> I didn't mean to imply that she is a newbie. She is likely very busy and may >> have missed some of the threads. I'm only trying to point out what I've >> seen. My details are not complete as I only glance at the build emails. >> >>> I build only for mac, for linux i point to the Buildbot too. If this builds >>> don't work for a Linux distribution it is a serios problem, so it's right >>> to bring it on the list. >>> >>> What Mechtilde miss, are de frequently snapshots from the project it self, >>> not from same contributors. The test build should be from the same mashine >>> as the final release. You can build AOO on two computers with Linux, you >>> will have two different builds even you use the same revision. >>> >>> For this reason, test builds has to come from the same mashin as the >>> release. For my point of view it's not a good idea to use a contributors >>> computer for it. So the main plattform Wendows, Linux, Mac realy need a >>> Buildbot, and this is not a "nice to have" it's a *realy urgent task* >> >> Please see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4197 > > What should I see here? > > That you want to setup Bildbots for Windows Mac and Solaris? > >> >> Andrew has been working on the ubuntu build since mid-November. >> >> So the project misses builds and the project has been working on the issue. > > Why do you publish nighbtly builds although you know that they doesn't > work since 6 weeks as you wrote yourself (Mid of November 2011) > > And where can I read whether this issue is fixed or not? > > To update an Ubuntu or a Debian System I only need one day in the worst > case but never more. > >> >>> And if one of this Buildbot produce unusable builds, then we have a serios >>> problem. >> >> Sure and that is to be fixed by engaging in the buildbot development >> process. Andrew Rist and Gavin are the people to engage. > > After we have a first working build on Windows and Linux 32 bit and 64 > bit we can discuss about a release plan but no day earlier. > > Kind regards > > Mechtilde > >> >> Regards, >> Dave >> >> >>> >>> Greetings Raphael >>> Am 02.01.12 17:47, schrieb Dave Fisher: >>>> Hi Mechtilde, >>>> >>>> There are developer snapshots available - if you follow the ML closely >>>> they are discussed. >>>> >>>> Have a look at this: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/devsnap.php >>>> >>>> Raphael has been making significant contributions to AOO since day one. >>>> >>>> Andrew RIst and others have been working with Gavin from Apache Infra on >>>> buildbots for several platforms. >>>> >>>> Please see https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4197 >>>> >>>> I agree that this information is hard to find. Someone should blog about >>>> it and let people know... >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Dave >>>> >>>> On Jan 2, 2012, at 8:33 AM, Mechtilde wrote: >>>> >> Hello Jürgen, >> >> >> Am 02.01.2012 10:32, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt: >>>>>>> Hi Mechtilde, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, Mechtilde<o...@mechtilde.de> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> you discuss about Release Plan and who are allowed to distribute >>>>>>> binaries with the name Apache OpenOffice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What should a user do? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There is no "official" binary available which anyone can install for >>>>>>> testing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The DEB binary from http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/ >>>>>>> can't be installed on a Debian 64 bit system. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I already described this problem at 17.12.2011 but nothing happened. As >>>>>>> Ariel described there must be an update of one programm on the buildbot. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Does Apache also want to release more than one plattform? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So we also need test binaries for these plattforms. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In my opinion this is an *absolute release stopper* not to have binaries >>>>>>> to test from "official" build maschines. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it's of course a serious problem where we have to find a solution. We >>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>> have the same infra structure as before and the release engineers did >>>>>>>> a lot >>>>>>>> to ensure a common base line to support as many Linux versions as >>>>>>>> possible. >> At this time there is NO other version for any plattform on >> http://ci.apache.org/projects/openoffice/install/ available >> >> >> >>>>>>>> Normally the office would come via the distro and would have been >>>>>>>> build for >>>>>>>> the distro and the specific versions of the system libraries. This is >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>> easier and i hope we can achieve this state in the future... >> There is NO version of Apache OpenOffice and there is NO version to test >> it before a release. >> >>>>>>>> For now we have to find another solution. We should update the build >>>>>>>> bot >>>>>>>> machine if possible. You have already mentioned the note from Ariel. >>>>>>>> And it >>>>>>>> would be probably good to have a 32 bit build bot machine as well. >>>>>>>> That >>>>>>>> would help a lot and would probably address most the systems (an >>>>>>>> update >>>>>>>> on Linux system is done quite often, isn't it) >> It depends on the based distribution. >> >> Debian oldstable ( ca. 3 years old IMO) contains e very newer version of >> the epm programm than the one Ariel talked from. >> >>>>>>>> We should define the exact switches that we use for our binary >>>>>>>> releases and >>>>>>>> hopefully we can provide a set of builds on various systems for testing >>>>>>>> purposes. >> That's what I ask for. >> >>>>>>>> There is definitely a lot of room for improvements, so let us start to >>>>>>>> figure our out what works best and let us improve our build/release >>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>> over time. >> So when can we start to test the first binary coming from Apache? >> >> Thats my question >> >> Kind Regards >> >> Mechtilde >> >> >>>>>>>> Juergen >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Mechtilde >>>>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> My private Homepage: http://www.raphaelbircher.ch/ > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ > > iEYEARECAAYFAk8CBMkACgkQucZfh1OziStAKACfWr2NkyruWb6+H611mdNKFaCF > PsoAoIuwPsuYmB78wzxV6K5tE0jKR2Eo > =MMMI > -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
