On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >> > >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>> > > >>> >> We currently have a web page that lists all of our mailing lists: > >>> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html > >>> >> > >>> >> However, the native language lists that we're creating recently are > >>> >> not there. And I think adding them to that page would not be the > best > >>> >> approach. I wonder if it would be better to highlight these > >>> >> communities on their own page. > >>> >> > >>> >> So something like this: > >>> >> > >>> >> On our podling page here: > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ > >>> >> > >>> >> Add new page under Community called "Native Language Communities" or > >>> >> maybe something a little shorter. > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > This sounds like a lovely idea! > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> >> On that page, explain a little what these groups are and are not. > >>> >> They are not separate Apache projects, but are "interest groups" or > >>> >> "language sections" within the AOO project, concentrating on native > >>> >> language support, localization, marketing efforts, etc. > >>> >> > >>> >> Then have a table listing the languages and the mailing lists. We > >>> >> could also have links to the website, e.g., de.openoffice.org. If > >>> >> there are official social media accounts used by that community (a > >>> >> Facebook page ot Twitter account, for example) we could link to > those > >>> >> as well. > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > It might be easiest, considering the state we're in with the NL > mailing > >>> > lists right now, to document these on a wiki page, and just link to > THAT > >>> > from the new NL info page you suggest. > >>> > > >>> > >>> Wiki is fine also. Personally, I prefer the Apache CMS and mdtext > >>> over Confluence wiki. It is easier to make a good looking page that > >>> has a consistent style with the rest of the site. But as Emerson > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by > >>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a > >>> great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself > >>> with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think today in hard words, > >>> and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it > >>> contradict every thing you said today." > >>> > >>> So inconsistency is fine with me as well. > >>> > >> > >> Well it would certainly be easier for the mailing list "requestors" to > >> update a wiki page once their request had been processed, and then link > the > >> web site page *TO* that I think. I will start this page, and hopefully > >> folks will update. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> > I've seen messages/setups go by for the new mailing lists, but > >>> honestly, I > >>> > have not been paying close attention. > >>> > > >>> > >>> I think we have current or requested lists for Japanese, German, > >>> Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and French. > >>> > >> > >> This is what I've found so far... > >> > >> ooo-users-de > >> ooo-general-ja > >> ooo-geral-ptbr > >> ooo-general-es > >> ooo-utenti-it > >> ooo-progetto-it > >> > >> OK, I'll get started on this. > >> > > > > Well this took a bit more time than I expected, but we now have a "Native > > Language" area on the podling web site -- > > > > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ > > > > This looks good. Thanks. > > > Since we have few native language mailing lists right now, I guess not a > > problem with just listing them here. And thanks to Kazunari Hirano for > > pointing me what had already been discussed and the planning wiki page. > > > > I have yet to edit the existing Native Language page on the web server. > > Instead of just deleting the current project leads, though, I'm thinking > of > > just changing the header to "Former Project Lead" in case someone (else) > > want s to contact that person. Thoughts on this? > > > > Are we sure that the former leads actually want to be contacted? It > may be more useful for a visitor to be directed to your new page. > I guess I was thinking if someone new from one of the areas was thinking about stepping up they might want to contact the former lead -- but, then again, maybe not. Really I don't have a problem with removing the former project leads. Louis is still the point guy on the info page, so maybe that's good enough. > > -Rob > > > > >> > >> > >> > >>> > If someone could create this new wiki page, I would happy to create > the > >>> > front-end for it (and figure out how to modify the project menu). > >>> > > >>> > Thoughts? > >>> > > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> -Rob > >>> >> > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > -- > >>> > > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> > MzK > >>> > > >>> > "Follow your bliss." > >>> > -- attributed to Joseph Campbell > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> MzK > >> > >> "Follow your bliss." > >> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > MzK > > > > "Follow your bliss." > > -- attributed to Joseph Campbell > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "Follow your bliss." -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
