On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 5:08 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
> > On Mar 19, 2012, at 4:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > > On Mon, Mar 19, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Mar 15, 2012 at 3:06 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 9:26 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 12:03 PM, Kay Schenk <kay.sch...@gmail.com> > >>>> wrote: > >>>>> On Wed, Mar 14, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Rob Weir <robw...@apache.org> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> We currently have a web page that lists all of our mailing lists: > >>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/mailing-lists.html > >>>>>> > >>>>>> However, the native language lists that we're creating recently are > >>>>>> not there. And I think adding them to that page would not be the > best > >>>>>> approach. I wonder if it would be better to highlight these > >>>>>> communities on their own page. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> So something like this: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On our podling page here: > http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Add new page under Community called "Native Language Communities" or > >>>>>> maybe something a little shorter. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> This sounds like a lovely idea! > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On that page, explain a little what these groups are and are not. > >>>>>> They are not separate Apache projects, but are "interest groups" or > >>>>>> "language sections" within the AOO project, concentrating on native > >>>>>> language support, localization, marketing efforts, etc. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Then have a table listing the languages and the mailing lists. We > >>>>>> could also have links to the website, e.g., de.openoffice.org. If > >>>>>> there are official social media accounts used by that community (a > >>>>>> Facebook page ot Twitter account, for example) we could link to > those > >>>>>> as well. > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> It might be easiest, considering the state we're in with the NL > mailing > >>>>> lists right now, to document these on a wiki page, and just link to > THAT > >>>>> from the new NL info page you suggest. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Wiki is fine also. Personally, I prefer the Apache CMS and mdtext > >>>> over Confluence wiki. It is easier to make a good looking page that > >>>> has a consistent style with the rest of the site. But as Emerson > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds, adored by > >>>> little statesmen and philosophers and divines. With consistency a > >>>> great soul has simply nothing to do. He may as well concern himself > >>>> with his shadow on the wall. Speak what you think today in hard words, > >>>> and tomorrow speak what tomorrow thinks in hard words again, though it > >>>> contradict every thing you said today." > >>>> > >>>> So inconsistency is fine with me as well. > >>>> > >>> > >>> Well it would certainly be easier for the mailing list "requestors" to > >>> update a wiki page once their request had been processed, and then > link the > >>> web site page *TO* that I think. I will start this page, and hopefully > >>> folks will update. > >>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>>> I've seen messages/setups go by for the new mailing lists, but > >>>> honestly, I > >>>>> have not been paying close attention. > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> I think we have current or requested lists for Japanese, German, > >>>> Italian, Spanish, Brazilian Portuguese and French. > >>>> > >>> > >>> This is what I've found so far... > >>> > >>> ooo-users-de > >>> ooo-general-ja > >>> ooo-geral-ptbr > >>> ooo-general-es > >>> ooo-utenti-it > >>> ooo-progetto-it > >>> > >>> OK, I'll get started on this. > >>> > >> > >> Well this took a bit more time than I expected, but we now have a > "Native > >> Language" area on the podling web site -- > >> > >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ > >> > > > > This looks good. Thanks. > > > >> Since we have few native language mailing lists right now, I guess not a > >> problem with just listing them here. And thanks to Kazunari Hirano for > >> pointing me what had already been discussed and the planning wiki page. > >> > >> I have yet to edit the existing Native Language page on the web server. > >> Instead of just deleting the current project leads, though, I'm > thinking of > >> just changing the header to "Former Project Lead" in case someone (else) > >> want s to contact that person. Thoughts on this? > >> > > > > Are we sure that the former leads actually want to be contacted? > > Some from sweden requested that their names be removed. I have no problem > with removal. > > > It > > may be more useful for a visitor to be directed to your new page. > > It would be useful to link to Kay's new page from the existing page. We > have someone named Kevin Sisco who is working on a new version. We are > waiting to see. > Well, OK, I will do that -- i.e. link the new "project NL" page from the old page in the next day or so. > > Regards, > Dave > > > > > > -Rob > > > >> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>> If someone could create this new wiki page, I would happy to create > the > >>>>> front-end for it (and figure out how to modify the project menu). > >>>>> > >>>>> Thoughts? > >>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> -Rob > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> -- > >>>>> > >>>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>>>> MzK > >>>>> > >>>>> "Follow your bliss." > >>>>> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> > >>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> MzK > >>> > >>> "Follow your bliss." > >>> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> MzK > >> > >> "Follow your bliss." > >> -- attributed to Joseph Campbell > > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MzK "Follow your bliss." -- attributed to Joseph Campbell
