On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pesce...@apache.org>
wrote:
Kay Schenk wrote:
Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
/download/index.html page at:
http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I wanted
you to see, but will of course go away in production.
The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
We have another thread
http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**
ooo.devel/16219<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates (i.e.,
downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates" function)
That's what I understand as well.
oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as well
-- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
SourceForge for that though.
The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't understood
yet
what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute only
sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will release
sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the security
patch info page...
http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
and you can see what the link looks like.
Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I thought we
were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100% someplace
else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may be one
place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace else with
an entirely different look and feel.
Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
mainly to
be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in that
thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
So how about something very simple:
1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
/download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.
This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
a) Hashes and detached signatures
b) source distribution
c) a link to the full release tree
Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
openoffice.org they have, right?
Anyway, good conversation.
In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal
users will download from SF.
2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe MirrorBrain.
Maybe a mix,
On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope that
talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra, that had
started on this list, are progressing now.
I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how we deal
with AOO 3.4 initial downloads. But maybe the update downloads in a
couple of weeks.
-Rob
Regards,
Andrea.
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