Hagar Delest wrote:
Le jeu. 12 juil. 2012 21:19:50 CEST, Joe Schaefer
a écrit :
Hagar is a committer, that comes both with certain rights and certain
responsibilities, the latter of which is to not bother others with work
he can carry out effectively himself.
Don't tell me that since I'm a committer I've to comply with all the
package that goes with it. Why doesn't Apache adapt to a project that is
rather new for it, doing with a large user base and side areas like
forums, NL teams, ...?

More than an "Apache way vs OpenOffice tradition" fight, this is about the role of volunteers. I find it perfectly acceptable that a volunteer chooses certain areas due to personal inclinations and neglects other non-vital areas: volunteering is supposed to be fun in the end. Likely, most committers have (or can reach) the technical knowledge to fix bugs, but this would be highly ineffective for most of them, and "Please learn C++ and fix it yourself" has been regarded so far, and should still be regarded, as offensive towards someone who is just reporting a bug or doing QA.

So let's me say that I'm now really fed up with your lessons.
So do what you want, I don't care. But forget about new blog posts from me.

I hope this eventually is forgotten and Hagar's contributions can continue as usual, but I'd say this is a natural outcome of this conversation. What else could come out of it? And do we really need this kind of discussions? The PPMC votes committers in because of merit, and it's very rare that a candidate's merits span all over the project: most times one can do a very relevant contribution by helping in the one area of the project he likes most (be it user support on the forums, or on the mailing lists, or localization, or programming...).

Regards,
  Andrea.

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