KG01 see comments inline.

On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:39 PM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote:

> On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 15:58 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
>> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:49:02 -0700
>> Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO 
>>>>> 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, 
>>>>> so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table 
>>>>> for AOO 4.0.  Many of the suggestions can be amalgamated, for example 
>>>>> improved doc/docx, xls/xlsx etc support; within reason these can all be 
>>>>> amalgamated into "improved support for MS Office formats, current and 
>>>>> legacy".  Other suggestions are readily achievable by existing faciites 
>>>>> in OpenOffice; such requests might indicate need for better education of 
>>>>> Users or more accessible documentation/tutorials.

>>>>> Supposing that the Brainstorm is continued beyond AOO 4.0, should we 
>>>>> prune it in the light of whatever choices are made for AOO 4.0; should we 
>>>>> also register comments against some of the already readily achievable 
>>>>> functions, to give pointers to (say) the Forums and/or tutorials which 
>>>>> indicate how to do that function?
>>>>>

KG01 - Yes, tracing discussion and voting results to a list if
prioritized reqs is import. Furthermore, we need to then trace the
reqs to design explorations (including scenarios and storyboards with
mockups).

>>>>> Could we have some discussion on how best to analyse and progress the 
>>>>> current nearly 300 suggestions [as of date of posting)
>>>>>
>>>>

KG01 - We could bring our initial list of candidates to the upcoming
conference for further validation and prioritization.


>>>> We're getting a lot more feedback than I expected:  305 people have
>>>> submitted 284 ideas and cast 3,106 votes.
>>>>
>>>> IMHO, this is wonderful.   In some sense the voting process itself
>>>> helps triage, especially if project members are also submitting ideas
>>>> and voting, which I hope we all are.
>>>
>>> Not all of us have the time.
>>>>
>>>> I like your idea of combining closely related or duplicate ideas.
>>>> Maybe in the end we could promote a "top 10" list of ideas, in a blog
>>>> post, and collect also commentary from project members related to
>>>> these top 10 ideas.
>>>
>>> I think that coming back to ooo-dev with "Top" ideas is appropriate.
>>
>> One of my concerns was that the multiple requests for similar 
>> features/support might cause these to drop off the radar as their voting 
>> would be too fragmented.  Hence my suggestion that we consider amalgamation 
>> of closely related suggestions; the coding for one specific suggestion might 
>> easily expand to cover the coding necessary for a particular range.  Hence 
>> the need for some form of triage to make best use of coding resources.
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes - I would agree, there will need to be some form of triage (call it
> moderation if you prefer).
>
> //drew
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another approach would be to take the top ideas and use them as
>>>> additional input to a survey design that Kevin and Graham were looking
>>>> into.  We could take the top 10 (or 20) ideas and in the survey ask
>>>> users to rate them.
>>>
>>> FYI - The ASF Board has created a new TLP called Apache Steve which will 
>>> expose the Voting mechanism used by the ASF membership.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>>
>>>> That help us get around the natural bias of Google Moderator, which is
>>>> that ideas submitted first will get more votes because they've had
>>>> more time to be voted on.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>> -Rob
>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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