KG01 see comments inline. On Aug 24, 2012, at 11:39 PM, drew <d...@baseanswers.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 2012-08-24 at 15:58 +0100, Rory O'Farrell wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Aug 2012 07:49:02 -0700 >> Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Aug 24, 2012, at 7:39 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In due course, when we've all had a little rest after the release of AOO >>>>> 3.4.1, it will be necessary to do some triage work on the Brainstorming, >>>>> so that the most requested changes make their way onto the planning table >>>>> for AOO 4.0. Many of the suggestions can be amalgamated, for example >>>>> improved doc/docx, xls/xlsx etc support; within reason these can all be >>>>> amalgamated into "improved support for MS Office formats, current and >>>>> legacy". Other suggestions are readily achievable by existing faciites >>>>> in OpenOffice; such requests might indicate need for better education of >>>>> Users or more accessible documentation/tutorials. >>>>> Supposing that the Brainstorm is continued beyond AOO 4.0, should we >>>>> prune it in the light of whatever choices are made for AOO 4.0; should we >>>>> also register comments against some of the already readily achievable >>>>> functions, to give pointers to (say) the Forums and/or tutorials which >>>>> indicate how to do that function? >>>>> KG01 - Yes, tracing discussion and voting results to a list if prioritized reqs is import. Furthermore, we need to then trace the reqs to design explorations (including scenarios and storyboards with mockups). >>>>> Could we have some discussion on how best to analyse and progress the >>>>> current nearly 300 suggestions [as of date of posting) >>>>> >>>> KG01 - We could bring our initial list of candidates to the upcoming conference for further validation and prioritization. >>>> We're getting a lot more feedback than I expected: 305 people have >>>> submitted 284 ideas and cast 3,106 votes. >>>> >>>> IMHO, this is wonderful. In some sense the voting process itself >>>> helps triage, especially if project members are also submitting ideas >>>> and voting, which I hope we all are. >>> >>> Not all of us have the time. >>>> >>>> I like your idea of combining closely related or duplicate ideas. >>>> Maybe in the end we could promote a "top 10" list of ideas, in a blog >>>> post, and collect also commentary from project members related to >>>> these top 10 ideas. >>> >>> I think that coming back to ooo-dev with "Top" ideas is appropriate. >> >> One of my concerns was that the multiple requests for similar >> features/support might cause these to drop off the radar as their voting >> would be too fragmented. Hence my suggestion that we consider amalgamation >> of closely related suggestions; the coding for one specific suggestion might >> easily expand to cover the coding necessary for a particular range. Hence >> the need for some form of triage to make best use of coding resources. > > Hi, > > Yes - I would agree, there will need to be some form of triage (call it > moderation if you prefer). > > //drew > >> >>> >>>> >>>> Another approach would be to take the top ideas and use them as >>>> additional input to a survey design that Kevin and Graham were looking >>>> into. We could take the top 10 (or 20) ideas and in the survey ask >>>> users to rate them. >>> >>> FYI - The ASF Board has created a new TLP called Apache Steve which will >>> expose the Voting mechanism used by the ASF membership. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Dave >>> >>>> >>>> That help us get around the natural bias of Google Moderator, which is >>>> that ideas submitted first will get more votes because they've had >>>> more time to be voted on. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> -Rob >>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Rory O'Farrell <ofarr...@iol.ie> >>> >>> >> >> > >