On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 4:24 PM, Dave Fisher <dave2w...@comcast.net> wrote: > > On Oct 31, 2012, at 1:05 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > >> >> On 12-10-31, at 14:17 , Andrew Rist <andrew.r...@oracle.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> On 10/31/2012 8:54 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10/30/2012 04:14 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On 10/30/2012 1:39 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>>>>> Looking at old threads, I'm a bit confused about the outcome of this one: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://markmail.org/message/ldigtivvyy2su62u >>>>>> >>>>>> Currently some of the ".com" domains don't even show up on the DNS radar, >>>>>> and on the others remaining registered by Oracle. Was it the outcome of >>>>>> this discussion to have Oracle transfer the registrations to the ASF? >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought that was perhaps what we wanted to do, but ti doesn't seem to >>>>>> have happened yet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Andrew, can you shed some light? Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4906 >>>>> >>>>> I guess it's not been on the top of any of our lists. The domains were >>>>> opened up for transfer on the Oracle side (not sure if that times out). >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>> >>>> Thanks for the update. I'm not sure what this means though. :/ >>>> >>>> Oracle didn't renew them and now these domains are up for grabs? >>> Unfortunately - that does seem to be the case. I'm not sure if that is >>> really a problem, though. >> >> I don't think it is. >> >> >>> A lot of these domains were acquired as a defensive measure, and I am not >>> sure there is currently a substantial problem with these 'similar domains'. >> >> Quite. I was working with the legal team at Sun and then Oracle on these and >> a) not many of them and b) the efforts were targeted and defensive and did >> not really map to any aggressive outreach strategy. Actually, to say a nice >> thing about a certain set of companies, the efforts really were directed to >> shelter the most active communities. > > I did a series of whois requests on these domains. They seems to be > registered with Tucows on auto-renewal: > > eg: > Domain ID:D159673109-LROR > Domain Name:IT-OPENOFFICE.ORG > Created On:16-Jul-2010 19:33:15 UTC > Last Updated On:17-Jun-2012 06:09:50 UTC > Expiration Date:16-Jul-2013 19:33:15 UTC > Sponsoring Registrar:Tucows Inc. (R11-LROR) > > >> >>> Also, if a problem does arise, we have the trademark to protect the brand. >> >> Yes, but perhaps we can start a new thread or threads that can finalize >> this issue and re-frame it not as a set of defensive tactics but as a >> strategy to promote AOO, and to use the domains as vehicles for that >> promotion…. > > The thread name is correct. This is old business.. > > Choice 1 - work to transfer domains to the ASF so that the AOO can "do > something" with these domains. > > In order to take control of the DNS for each domain we need someone with > Apache Infrastructure karma to work in concert with the proper person from > Oracle in order to transfer all of these domain registrations. >
This is exactly what we did, right? But the JIRA issue did not progress. Our fault for not noting that there was a clock ticking on these domain names and raising the priority of this with Infra. > Choice 2 - ignore these domains. Let Oracle know we don't care. They can make > their own choice about renewing these domains or not. > > Regards, > Dave > >>> >>> Andrew >>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> -louis >
