Rick has a point.  Acting on counsel I examined the SF site more closely
and I found an extensive list of things to do.  I do not possess the C++
skills or the knowledge of the product architecture I would need to
participate with David, Rick, or Mark, but I did find something on the
list that I think I can do, and, Rick is correct, it will give me some
idea of how to work with the development environment.  

Now, if someone will just give me the userid and password I need to
actually enter the repository and look at it in Tortoise, I will
proceed.  The message box is attached.  

-----Original Message-----
From: Rick McGuire [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2008 15:50
To: Open Object Rexx Developer Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Oorexx-devel] Socket.cls and StreamSocket.cls

Yes, the solution is always "have the already overbooked core team do
more".  I'm getting tired of that answer too.

Rick

On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Jack Woehr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Rick McGuire wrote:
>
>> The continued health of this project requires an active, growing
>> community.
>
> IBM let ObjectRexx off the leash about eight years late for that. If
ooRexx
> had
> been open sourced before Ruby came forward ... sigh ...
>
> It *is* a very small community and the language doesn't have a
specific
> mission.
>
> PHP does simple websites.
> Ruby does fancier ones.
> Perl does sysadmin and CGI.
>
> What does ObjectRexx address that would have people flying around the
> country to conferences
> and embracing it like they do for Ruby and Perl?
>
> The problem isn't so much that you need more of the techies who play
with
> OORexx already.
> The problem is that you (we) need to enunciate a mission for
ObjectRexx and
> go recruit more
> techies who stand behind such a mission into our little ObjectRexx
army.
>
> What can ObjectRexx do (aside from "be fun to program in") better than
the
> other
> open source languages with established communities? Answer that and
you
> answer
> our labor shortage.
>
> For me the answer is, "It's a very easy scripting language and
BSF4Rexx made
> it the
> easiest way to script Java." Until I started my own Open Source
Project
> PigIron
> to provide Java access to z/VM SMAPI I liked Object Rexx (since 1995)
but
> had never
> before found the value proposition to use it for anything real. Now
I've got
> a value
> proposition, this complete ObjectRexx interface to z/VM SMAPI that
started
> as simply
> a testing tool for the underlying Java code.
>
> In the meantime, Rick, are you leveraging the (admittedly few)
resources
> that are already
> at your disposal to try to get help?
>
> have you broken this down into some well-factored tasks/assignments
> are these tasks posted in the Tasks section of the ooRexx SourceForge
site?
> Do you have recruitment notices posted on SourceForge?
>
> Also, why don't we try to convince editor Jon Erickson to hook you up
with a
> Guru blog
> on Dr. Dobb's CodeTalk and you can publicize a bit and maybe draw some
users
> in there?
> I've certainly been mentioning ObjectRexx there, e.g. Calling Java
from Open
> Object Rexx
>
> Maybe we can "start a buzz" as the youngsters say.
>
> --
> Jack J. Woehr            # "Self-delusion is
> http://www.well.com/~jax #  half the battle!"
> http://www.softwoehr.com #  - Zippy the Pinhead
>
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