Critical thinking?
That is for process and materials selection for GPU design.
Agenda 21 has nothing to do with critical thinking, it simply _is_.
Good Heavens!
I would like to state for the record that no where did I say that
document in my previous citation written by the "United Nations"
contained _any_ critical thinking. If you read it, it is entirely for a
different audience. (i.e. That audience I can assure you is not anyone
on this list.).
I am not from a defense contractor.
I am simply interested in the idea of a open GPU.
I think the larger question is exactly what Intel is going to do with
its roadmap.
Did any of you guys look at this article:
http://www.techradar.com/us/news/computing-components/graphics-cards/intel-could-kill-performance-pc-graphics-in-2015-1089339
Given how slow the project is moving, I am wondering if we are chasing a
straw man here.
If the GPU simply becomes part of the CPU and just as programmable, the
issues with ATI and Nvidia might be a mute point.
Which would be fine with me, ATI and Nvidia deserve to burn in my
opinion because I consider open source one of the few redeeming
qualities of human pursuits in science and technology and I must say, on
a daily basis I have to deal with these two companies and it physically
makes me nauseous.
-gc
On 10/17/2012 06:23 PM, Troy Benjegerdes wrote:
Let's use some critical thinking here, okay?
First, if a graphics card is using more than 60W power at *idle*,
it's going to turn into a puddle of molten slag under full load.
Second, start thinking about who stands to *make money* here. Who's
going to get a bonus (or a promotion) because of some silly limit
like this?
The 'agenda21' thing sounds like someone from a defense contractor
wrote it, so they can sell more military equipment. But the funny
thing is we have a competitive world market, and if AMD (or an
up-and-coming Chinese chipmaker) figures out theres more money in
120W graphics cards, then that's what we'll have, and the EU can
buy the slower limited versions and their players will get fragged
more.
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 09:02:27AM -0500, Gregory Carter wrote:
Welcome to Agenda 21.
http://www.un.org/esa/dsd/agenda21/
It is a well known publication by the U.N. to de-industrialize the west.
It's main goals are:
1) Stop or freeze/reduce the development of Urban centers.
2) Reduce the use of technology in various areas in human
communities to prevent the spread of electrical consumption and
preserve woodland areas and water reserves.
3) Reduce population through the application of genetically modified
foods, targeting high growth populations in Africa and other
undeveloped nations through the use of trade and GMO seed sales
controls.
It not only means no GPU's in your future, it also means death for billions.
-gc
On 10/15/2012 12:13 PM, Dieter BSD wrote:
Why not limit power directly rather than limiting memory bandwidth?
The US has a gas guzzler tax for cars that use a lot of fuel.
But light bulbs and now GPUs get an outright ban?
http://www.techpowerup.com/173706/New-EU-Energy-Guidelines-Could-Cripple-High-End-Graphics-Cards.html
Hmmm, maybe the 1% think Big Bird is using too much energy?
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