I'm +0.5 to removal.  Thanks, all.
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On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 1:09 PM Bill Erickson <beric...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> For the reasons mentioned by Ben and Galen, I am also +1 for removal.
>
> I also prefer we remove before bug squashing week so we can get it out of the 
> way, with option to revert later if some new serious problem surfaces.
>
> And just to have some skin in the game, between Kyle and I, we will resolve 
> LP#1511742.
>
> -b
>
> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:50 PM Ben Shum <b...@evergreener.net> wrote:
>>
>> One other idea that just popped into my head that we might want to
>> discuss is potentially keeping XUL in Evergreen, but deciding to end
>> all the i18n processes related to it.  By now, strings should be
>> relatively static, so template changes should no longer be occurring
>> (though sometimes I've been surprised or bug fixes change something).
>>
>> This separates my i18n concerns from the primary XUL retention question.
>>
>> I still vote "yes" though.
>>
>> -- Ben
>> On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:21 PM Ben Shum <b...@evergreener.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > I vote "yes" to getting rid of XUL now.
>> >
>> > From i18n side of things, we've been working around the problems with
>> > running the translation process with our old XUL code by using the
>> > older template toolkit set from Ubuntu 14.04.  That Ubuntu version is
>> > EOL next year April 2019, and I'd rather not have the community
>> > dealing with translation support for the old XUL code (which is
>> > already unsupported by modern template toolkit) past that point.  If
>> > we retain XUL in 3.2 and keep supporting it through late 2019 (as we
>> > usually do the 15 months of support), then we'll have to build in
>> > additional carryover processes for the release builders and
>> > maintainers to deal with.
>> >
>> > Things are already going to be complicated enough moving forward with
>> > i18n translation support in the new ang6, I'd prefer to keep us
>> > looking ahead rather than continuing to half-support broken legacy
>> > processes.
>> >
>> > -- Ben
>> > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 12:08 PM Kathy Lussier <kluss...@masslnc.org> 
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Based on what I know today, I reluctantly vote against removal. There 
>> > > are some bugs in that list with no other current workaround except to 
>> > > use the xul client to perform an action.  I would happily change my vote 
>> > > in a couple of weeks if more progress were made on some of the 
>> > > webstaffblockers.
>> > >
>> > > Kathy
>> > >
>> > > --
>> > > Kathy Lussier
>> > > Project Coordinator
>> > > Massachusetts Library Network Cooperative
>> > > (508) 343-0128
>> > > kluss...@masslnc.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 11:57 AM Bill Erickson <beric...@gmail.com> 
>> > > wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> Devs,
>> > >>
>> > >> I'd like to have an informal vote on whether we should remove (well, 
>> > >> disable) the XUL client in 3.2.  Delaying the decision is complicating 
>> > >> the release process.  If it's clear which way the wind is blowing, we 
>> > >> can set a date for the final vote and patching.
>> > >>
>> > >> Knowing what you know today about outstanding webstaff blockers (a few 
>> > >> were just added), would you vote to proceed with XUL removal?  Can I 
>> > >> get a show of hands, yea or nay?
>> > >>
>> > >> Thanks,
>> > >>
>> > >> -b
>> > >>
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Benjamin Shum
>> > Evergreener
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Benjamin Shum
>> Evergreener

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