>From Wayne Mackintosh: "There is an initiative which provides free training targeted at building capacity for writing WP articles on the topics of openness see http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:School_of_Open_course
I think there is a course running at the moment. Wayne Mackintosh OER Foundation (Mobile)" Cheers, Fabiana On Sat, Feb 22, 2014 at 4:54 AM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]>wrote: > About the OER4Schools videos linked at the bottom of the article -- I see > that even though their YouTube pages list the standard YouTube license, > they also are available CC licenses. At least I think so -- this one, for > example: > * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KD3lBeUfLbg > Is also available on the JISC site, which has a general CC BY-SA and CC > BY-NC label at the bottom. > > If they are truly available under CC licenses, do you think it would be > possible to change the YouTube metadata to accurately reflect that? Would > you know who to talk to to get that done? > > (It also might be worthwhile to upload one or more of them to Wikimedia > Commons -- and consider using them to illustrate the Wikipedia article.) > > Pete > > > On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:29 AM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Bjoern and all -- >> >> What a great project & discussion! I have looked at the article, and it >> appears things are well underway. I will do what I can to support these >> efforts on Wikipedia, so only a couple quick comments for now/in email: >> >> 1. Bjoern, could you also make a brief announcement that you are working >> on this on the WikiProject Open talk page? http://enwp.org/WT:OPEN This >> is a good practice in general, and it would be particularly helpful right >> now -- we have a new cohort of students starting the "Writing Wikipedia >> Articles" (WIKISOO) course this week, and they will benefit from seeing >> this kind of WikiProject activity right from the start. >> >> 2. To the extent you are generally advocating for open projects to >> contribute to Wikipedia, I would urge you to include in your advocacy the >> importance of generally improving articles covering the field (like "Open >> Access", "OER", "Open content" etc.) -- in addition to articles about their >> specific projects. >> >> 3. I may have mentioned this to you before -- but we had students last >> summer who wrote an article on their own project. For anyone taking on a >> similar project, I think it's worthwhile to review the discussion from its >> talk page, especially the section about conflicts of interest. This >> provides some good practical insight into how to approach that issue: >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:PhET_Interactive_Simulations >> >> Looking forward to seeing where this goes! I will be putting some more >> specific suggestions on Wikipedia. >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 5:15 AM, Bjoern Hassler <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Great - many thanks - so let's discuss this on the talk page? >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:OER4Schools >>> >>> Thanks for all your input! >>> Bjoern >>> >>> >>> On 21 February 2014 13:51, Lane Rasberry <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hello, >>>> >>>> Post notes on Wikipedia in a userpage sandbox so that we can >>>> collaboratively look at this together and get it live so that it will be >>>> easier to reach. >>>> >>>> If you need help doing this, create a Wikipedia account, share the name >>>> here, and then we can meet on-wiki. >>>> >>>> I am user:bluerasberry on Wikipedia. Thanks for doing this. Yes, citing >>>> newspapers is good. >>>> >>>> yours, >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Feb 21, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Bjoern Hassler <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Stuart, hi all, >>>>> >>>>> the copyright violation isn't really one - I wrote both texts. Now, >>>>> technically you are right of course, but I'll get a CC logo put up on our >>>>> project page, which would resolve the issue. I'll ask the departmental web >>>>> person to do this now! We'll want to rewrite it a bit anyway. >>>>> >>>>> Sibi, Fred: Many thanks for comments and willingness to help out!! >>>>> Great to have your responses! >>>>> Bjoern >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 21 February 2014 13:08, Stuart Lawson <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Bjeorn, >>>>>> >>>>>> Research articles are great sources, less so if they are written by >>>>>> those involved, but still valid sources. References from other >>>>>> organisations would be very good. >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately I've realised that a lot of the text of the article is >>>>>> copied from here: >>>>>> https://www.educ.cam.ac.uk/centres/cce/initiatives/projects/oer4schools/ >>>>>> which >>>>>> is a copyright violation. As far as I can see, that page is copyrighted >>>>>> (no >>>>>> Creative Commons license), so the copied text needs to be removed and >>>>>> re-written/paraphrased instead. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Stuart >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 21 February 2014 11:51, Bjoern Hassler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Stuart, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> many thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What secondary sources would be appropriate? E.g. linking to >>>>>>> research articles (published in journals, peer-reviewed)? Or (given that >>>>>>> those are written by people involved), do they count as primary sources? >>>>>>> THere are some referneces from other organisations to us, so that would >>>>>>> work. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What sort of banner should we put at the top of the article to flag >>>>>>> that it's not complete? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bjoern >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 21 February 2014 12:14, Stuart Lawson >>>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi Bjoern, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think it's a great idea to create Wikipedia articles for these >>>>>>>> projects. The article for >>>>>>>> OER4Schools<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OER4Schools> will >>>>>>>> need quite a lot of work to make it appropriate for Wikipedia; every >>>>>>>> statement must be referenced, and it can't rely only on primary sources >>>>>>>> (e.g. the OER4Schools website). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you know of other sources that discuss the project, please add >>>>>>>> them or references or list them on the article's talk page for other >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> to look at. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you like, you could propose similar articles on the WikiProject >>>>>>>> Open talk >>>>>>>> page<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Open> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Stuart >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 21 February 2014 10:59, Bjoern Hassler <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am currently at the UNESCO Mobile Learning Week, and I thought >>>>>>>>> I'd raise something for discussion. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Should there be wikipedia entries on projects that are to do with >>>>>>>>> "open"? I.e. an entry describing the project?* >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Should there be wikipedia entries on educational projects? * >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> E.g. the significant UNESCO TISSA project, or the CREATE project >>>>>>>>> http://www.create-rpc.org/ are not on wikipedia. Larger scale >>>>>>>>> projects, such as EfA / GMR: >>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_For_All >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_for_All_Global_Monitoring_Report >>>>>>>>> are represented. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Background: People at the UNESCO Mobile Learning Week here are >>>>>>>>> saying that it's difficult to find out about other projects, and I >>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>> advocate that we should use wikipedia to share basic information, >>>>>>>>> rather >>>>>>>>> than setting up a separate platform. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For example I've just created this page: >>>>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OER4Schools >>>>>>>>> It's fairly unbiased, but at the same time, I am a key person >>>>>>>>> within the project. So while I could defend the neutrality of the >>>>>>>>> article, >>>>>>>>> it may still be frowned upon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What do people think? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> All the best, >>>>>>>>> Bjoern >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> OpenAccess mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> OpenAccess mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OpenAccess mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Pete Forsyth >> Principal, Wiki Strategies >> [email protected] >> +1 503-383-9454 >> www.wikistrategies.net >> > > > > -- > Pete Forsyth > Principal, Wiki Strategies > [email protected] > +1 503-383-9454 > www.wikistrategies.net > > _______________________________________________ > OpenAccess mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/openaccess > > -- M Fabiana Kubke Chair Advisory Panel Creative Commons Aotearoa New Zealand<http://www.creativecommons.org.nz/> Department of Anatomy | University of Auckland | New Zealand (+64) 9 373-7599 Ext 86002 | (+64)9 923 6002 (direct) | Mobile: (+64) 210 437 121 Skype: superfabs | http://twitter.com/Kubke | http://twitter.com/DrKupcake| http://blogs.plos.org/mindthebrain/ | http://kubke.wordpress.com | http://buildingblogsofscience.wordpress.com | http://sciblogs.co.nz/building-blogs-of-science | http://popscinz.wordpress.com | http://talkingteaching.wordpress.com
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