Hi Mike,

Would you please elaborate on your tutorial comment? What should it contain? What key concepts need to be mentioned? Would you be willing to help write such a document or give some notes on what it should contain?

The challenge of many of the AFS veterans is that we cannot see things as a new user sees them.

Thanks,
Jason

Mike Pliskin wrote:
Ok thanks for explaining that, maybe it makes sense to post this info into some 
tutorial online? In terms of geographical diversity, it's uncommon that people 
from different sites need to write the same info, so it's ok if it is a bit 
slow.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org [mailto:openafs-info-ad...@openafs.org] On 
Behalf Of Andrew Deason
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:01 PM
To: openafs-info@openafs.org
Subject: [OpenAFS] Re: Getting started with OpenAFS

On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 17:49:16 +0400
Mike Pliskin <m...@area9.dk> wrote:

Ok thanks a ton for explaining, the only point left is read-write and read-only and how to separate those. So far it sounds like I will need to have a setup like
/afs/public/data1
/afs/public/data2
/afs/public/data3
/afs/user1/data1
/afs/user2/data2 etc

The general notion of ROs vs RWs sounds correct, but the path structure is 
annoying me :) Traditionally, the convention of paths goes something like this:

/afs/<cellname>/<volume>

for the RO path, and

/afs/<cellname>/.<volume>

for the RW path. (And /afs/.<cellname>/ provides an RW path for anything).

So for example, you'd have /afs/area9.dk/.data1/, that some users can write to 
and fiddle around with. When someone/something decides it is time to release 
that data to all sites and make it 'public' via the RO paths, the data in 
/afs/area9.dk/.data1/ becomes synced with /afs/area9.dk/data1/. You 'decide' 
this by running a command (specifically 'vos release'). Then people can read 
the new stuff in /afs/area9.dk/data1/ by accessing one of many servers.

I'm not really sure I'm clear on your usage, though... you have data which will 
be 'accessed' by geographically diverse clients. But it helps to clarify 
'access' into 'read' and 'write'. Do you have people from multiple different 
sites that will be writing to the same set of data?
As far as I know, that will always be slow, since you must at least contact the 
remote sites immediately, or you risk cache coherence problems.

--
Andrew Deason
adea...@sinenomine.net

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