Good morning,
  My clinical experiences is:
  Clinician does clinical assessment first before initiating plan and 
intervention. SOAPIE (Subjective data, objective data, assessment, Plan, 
intervention & Evaluation) are helping in critiical thinking leading to 
decision making at the end of the day.
  From the reality point of view (how we perform our work): Social workers 
(normally write story about patient's social life in the clinicial notes) and 
all other clinician ( physio, doctor, nurses, occupational therapist, 
specialits ) collects clinical data using SOAPIE to execute intervention 
(eventually simple way of creating clinical decision). SOAPIE can be the 
standard way of writing clinical notes. Here in Middlemore hospital, they have 
been using this method for writing clinical notes. In Auckalnd city hospital 
doctors and physios writies using SOAPIE. Nurses uses Foci methods. I guess, 
EHR always helps in making clinical decisions in the most of the clinical 
situations and some of the decision requires decision engines.
   
  Regards,
  Pratima

Sam Heard <sam.heard at oceaninformatics.biz> wrote:
  Sebastian

Just to say that we have to be careful not to try and include decision support 
in the archetype itself - it just beeds to support DS engines.

Cheers, Sam

Sebastian Garde wrote:       Pratima, Sam,
   
  One example where I miss these operators would be the Barthel archetype - the 
total score could then explicitly be expressed as the sum of the other scores 
and automatically calculated.
  You probably can do this with invariants somehow? They are just not very 
user-friendly...
   
  Apart from the four basic operators Pratima mentioned, you could have others 
like max, min: e.g. an assessment where you take the maximum of several scores 
to e.g. indicate the severity of a condition. 
   
  Sebastian
      
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  From: Sam Heard [mailto:sam.heard at oceaninformatics.biz] 
Sent: Wednesday, 13 December 2006 11:32 AM
To: For openEHR clinical discussions
Subject: Re: Possible change request for Ocean Archetype Editor


Do you mean calculated fields? Sam

Pratima Poudel wrote:     Good day,
  It would be interesting and may be more powerful if we could add operators 
(multiply, devide, substract and additions) in the Ocean Archetype editors.
   
  Regards,
  Pratima
  
Sam Heard <sam.heard at oceaninformatics.biz> wrote:
  Would people like the description tab to be No 2 in the list - ie before the 
definition?
Cheers, Sam
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