Thanks Ian,
The requirement for me is to have an idea about the archetype based
representation of the information contained in this dataset.
I can simply create a dummy archetype with simple datatypes, but that
would not be a representative of an archetype based system that would
be managing this information.
In short, I wanted to observe related archetypes in their natural
environment :) Archetype based data is going to become input for my
research at one point, and I want to make that input as close to real
life as possible.

Best Regards
Seref


On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Ian McNicoll
<Ian.McNicoll at oceaninformatics.com> wrote:
> Hi Seref,
>
> What you have here is a classic example of questionnaire-based data
> collection, which made sense in a paper-base world but is totally
> out-of-whack if one is trying to retreive/pre-populate the data from
> an EHR. It is exactly the issues we discussed about DV_BOOLEAN vs.
> DV_CODED_TEXT
>
>
> If you take the first example
>
> on thyroxine: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
>
> EHR:: Query on ACTION.medication + Drug term
>
> query on thyroxine: ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
>
> on antithyroid medication: ? ? ?f, t.
> EHR:: Query on ACTION.medication
>
> sick: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> Tricky !! Can only be recorded by the human investigator
>
> pregnant: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> Tricky !! Can only be recorded by the human investigator . Notoriously
> tricky to keep track of a patient's pregnancy state
>
> thyroid surgery: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?f, t.
>
> Query on ACTION.procedure + Snomed term
>
> I131 treatment: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> Query on ACTION.procedure + Snomed term
>
> query hypothyroid: ? ? ? ? ? ? ?f, t.
> Query on EVALUATION.problem + Snomed term
>
> query hyperthyroid: ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> Query on EVALUATION.problem + Snomed term
>
> lithium: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?f, t.
> Query on EVALUATION.problem + Snomed term
>
> goitre: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> Query on EVALUATION.problem + Snomed term
>
> tumor: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?f, t.
> Query on EVALUATION.problem + Snomed term
>
> hypopituitary: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?f, t.
> Query on EVALUATION.problem + Snomed term
>
> psych: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?f, t.
> Query on EVALUATION.problem + Snomed term
>
> TSH measured: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> TSH: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?continuous.
> T3 measured: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?f, t.
> T3: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? continuous.
> TT4 measured: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> TT4: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?continuous.
> T4U measured: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> T4U: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?continuous.
> FTI measured: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> FTI: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?continuous.
>
> TBG measured: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? f, t.
> TBG: ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?continuous.
>
> Queries on OBSERVATION.lab_test.v1 and ? LOINC/SNOMED terms
>
>
> Realistically though you will probably have to re-create the Y/N 
> questionaire!!
>
> What is the overall requirement?
>
> Ian
>
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>
> On 17 February 2011 15:18, Seref Arikan
> <serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>> In the context of my PhD work at UCL, I'll be needing some archetypes
>> to model the clinical data which I'll be using. If by any chance. I
>> can get my hands on some existing archetypes which are likely to
>> contain the domain information that I'm working on, that'd help a lot.
>> At the moment I'm working on some thyroid data, and in worst case I'll
>> be creating a dummy archetype which would probably be a nightmare from
>> an experience modeller's point of view.
>> So if you know any existing archetypes (maybe in CKM?) which may be
>> relevant for the type of data I'm working on, it would be great to
>> hear about them. The following links point to descriptions of data
>> sets, which would provide an overview of the type of clinical data I'm
>> using at the moment.
>>
>> http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/machine-learning-databases/thyroid-disease/allhypo.names
>> http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/machine-learning-databases/thyroid-disease/thyroid0387.names
>> http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/machine-learning-databases/thyroid-disease/new-thyroid.names
>> http://archive.ics.uci.edu/ml/machine-learning-databases/thyroid-disease/allrep.names
>>
>> I'm likely to repeat this question based on other clinical data, but
>> for the moment I have not given up on using this data set.
>>
>> Best Regards
>> Seref Arikan
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