Hi,

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On Jun 22, 2012, at 4:58 AM, Stefan Sauermann <sauermann at technikum-wien.at> 
wrote:

> Hello eveybody!
> Looking at this discussion, the volume it is taking weighted against the 
> visible progress I ask myself if this is an efficient way to reach harmonised 
> conclusions. 
> 
> In our experience doing the national EHR standards and the lab report for 
> Austria we noticed: 
> - Once you reach a sufficient level of detail it is not possible to reach 
> generic (one fits all) solutions within available timeframes. 
> - Data models and their descriptions only started to work after all involved 
> had agreed on a specific, crisp and clear definition of the usecase.
> - No information model / description did work for all thinkable usecases.
> - We had to tailor information models to specific usecases.
> - Then bridging from one use case into the other becomes a challenge, as 
> subtle differences in the information will become an issue.
> - In order to bridge information from one specific use case into the other we 
> typically need to define another specific usecase.
> 
> I do not see the specific usecases you are referring to. I therefore can not 
> contribute to or understand this discussion. Maybe I missed something. Sorry!
> 
> Greetings from Vienna,
> Stefan Sauermann
> 
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> Biomedical Engineering Sciences (Master)
> 
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> 
> Am 22.06.2012 09:29, schrieb Gerard Freriks:
>> 
>> Yes.
>> 
>> It all is about classifying.
>> It is all about proper definitions we all share and use.
>> 
>> I believe that when we all interpret the definitions in our own way in our 
>> own data bases all is working nicely.
>> 
>> The moment we start to exchange this data we will discover that we are not 
>> interoperable,
>> The moment we start to re-use data in clinical decision support service we 
>> will discover that all systems that worked so nicely, have become problems 
>> to connect.
>> 
>> As EN13606 we work at full semantic interoperability as much as possible.
>> So we have to define many things, we use to produce archetypes, properly.
>> Don't we all have an obligation to make semantic interoperability possible?
>> 
>> 
>> Gerard Freriks
>> +31 620347088
>> gfrer at luna.nl
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 22 Jun 2012, at 02:45, Jussara wrote:
>> 
>>> Think the background of our discussions is about CLASSfying.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> 
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