Thanks Alessandro,
yes you are right, generally protocol is optional in RM, but I'm wondering
if it becomes mandatory when defined in the archetype.
ADL doesn't explicit the occurrences of protocol (I imagine the default is
0..1), but in XML representation of the archetype I find
...
<attributes xsi:type="C_SINGLE_ATTRIBUTE">
      <existence>
        <lower_unbounded>false</lower_unbounded>
        <upper_unbounded>false</upper_unbounded>
        <lower>1</lower>
        <upper>1</upper>
      </existence>
      <rm_attribute_name>protocol</rm_attribute_name>
      <children xsi:type="C_COMPLEX_OBJECT">
        <rm_type_name>ITEM_TREE</rm_type_name>
        <occurrences>
          <upper_included>true</upper_included>
          <lower_included>true</lower_included>
          <upper_unbounded>false</upper_unbounded>
          <lower_unbounded>false</lower_unbounded>
          <upper>1</upper>
          <lower>1</lower>
        </occurrences>
        <node_id>at0011</node_id>
...

where lower occurences number is 1 and not 0! Maybe is the XML serialization
wrong!?

leo


Alessandro Torrisi-3 wrote:
> 
> Leo,
> 
> perhaps you can look to this :
> 
> http://www.openehr.org/svn/specification/TRUNK/publishing/architecture/rm/ehr_im.pdf
> 
> then section 8.3.3. CARE_ENTRY Class
> 
> over there you can see that protocol is 0..1  So never be mandatory
> 
> Alessandro
> 
> 
> On 16 July 2010 11:47, Leonardo Moretti <lmoretti at noemalife.com> wrote:
> 
>>
>> Hi Alessandro,
>> items cardinality matches {0..*; unordered} is referred to "items"
>> elements,
>> not to "protocol" element
>>
>> This means we can have something like this:
>> <observation>
>> <data>
>> ...
>> </data>
>> <protocol archetype_node_id="at0011" xsi:type="ITEM_TREE">
>>    <name>
>>        <value>*List(en)</value>
>>    </name>
>> </protocol>
>> <observation>
>>
>> Is the section
>> <protocol archetype_node_id="at0011" xsi:type="ITEM_TREE">
>>    <name>
>>        <value>*List(en)</value>
>>    </name>
>> </protocol>
>> mandatory, even if it doesn't have any items?
>> Looking at the archetype defintion, so it seems!
>>
>> leo
>>
>>
>> Alessandro Torrisi-3 wrote:
>> >
>> > Leo,
>> >
>> > as far as i can see the protocol section is not mandatory :
>> >
>> > protocol matches {
>> > ITEM_TREE[at0011] matches { -- lijst structuur
>> > items cardinality matches {0..*; unordered} matches {
>> >
>> > as you can see 0..* (means zero times until unbounded times), so not
>> > mandatory
>> >
>> > Alessandro
>> >
>> >
>> > On 15 July 2010 17:57, Moretti Leonardo <lmoretti at noemalife.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> I have a doubt in interpretating the archetype definition when there
>> are
>> >> "state" or "protocol" structure. For example, looking at "Blood
>> >> Pressure" in http://openehr.org/knowledge/, I'm wondering if
>> "protocol"
>> >> structure is mandatory, as it seems looking at the archetype. If I
>> don't
>> >> know any details about the protocol, do I have to insert an empty tag
>> >> <protocol> however?
>> >>
>> >> Best regards
>> >> leo
>> >>
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