Thanks! Would be nice to hear about the progress of this effort. 

Mikael Nyström <mikael.nyst...@liu.se> hat am 25. Januar 2016 um 23:20 geschrieben:

Hi Birger,

 

It might be this paper you are thinking of.

 

Freire S, Sundvall E, Karlsson D, Lambrix P. Performance of XML Databases for Epidemiological Queries in Archetype-Based EHRs. Scandinavian Conference on Health Informatics 2012; October 2-3; Linköping; Sweden. P 51-57. Linköping Electronic Conference Proceedings.

 

http://www.ep.liu.se/ecp/070/009/ecp1270009.pdf

http://www.ep.liu.se/ecp_article/index.en.aspx?issue=070;article=009

 

                             Regards

                             Mikael

 

 

 

From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Birger Haarbrandt
Sent: den 25 januari 2016 22:57
To: Bert Verhees; For openEHR technical discussions
Subject: Re: Archetype relational mapping - a practical openEHR persistence solution

 

Actually, we use such mappings to promote some "important" elements to relational tables to get sort of indices on the data. Otherwise, I don't think we would be able to do efficient ad-hoc cross-patient queries directly on the database. Exporting data to I2B2 or SSAS would be inconvenient sometimes and SQL still has some advantages. 

BTW, is there an AQL implementation that is optimized for such "epidemiolocial querying"? I think Erik Sundvall mentioned a hadoop-based research project a while ago. 

Best,

Birger 



Bert Verhees <bert.verh...@rosa.nl> hat am 25. Januar 2016 um 18:42 geschrieben:

Another problem is you have to convert your object oriented model (which RM is) to a relational model, which becomes complex in converting templates/aql to SQL. I have been that way. More then five years ago I left it. It is difficult doable, if you want a full featured openehr kernel. I would never recommend going this way, unless someone has a really smart idea.

It can work for a light featured openehr light derived application model.

Best regards
Bert

Op 25 jan. 2016 15:26 schreef "pazospa...@hotmail.com" <pazospa...@hotmail.com>:

I talked about this approach with a colleague from China during MEDINFO. The problem is your schema grows with your archetypes. Also, that storing data from many templates that don't use all the fields in the archetype, will generate sparse tables (lots of null columns). I told him it was easier to do an ORM from the IM, because the schema doesn't change and allows to store data from any archetype/template. But they already have a system working this way.

 

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Interesting paper from China

 

 

Ian


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