thomas, if there already were facile electronic heath record software with semantically rich interoperability and a user interface that my physicians want then i would be madly installing it. if it exists and i don't know about it, please tell me. until then i plan to continue rooting for projects like yours to bring semantically advanced solutions to market while i install merely facile solutions which lack rich semantic interoperability.
i can't speak for other communities, but i can speak authoritatively for rural california when i say that the current medical EHR software options are clearly underwhelming to 90% of physician practices of 5 or fewer providers, which is where 60% of our primary care takes place. and which is why EHR adoption is still anemic even after 20 years of TEPR. besides, the EHR software already installed in the larger care delivery settings is not semantically interoperable anyway, or at least not without an unjustifiable dose of infrastructure and complexity (such as IHE/XDS, an old paradigm with as much baggage as HL7). meanwhile, substantial administrative simplification can be achieved in ordinary clinical care work flow simply by organizing medical communities to collaborate intelligently and to leverage off the shelf internet technology that can improve the practice of medicine even if the clinical charting is still paper based. in other words, in my neighborhood a bunch of electronic clinical documents that are easily organized, securely stored and safely shared is an improvement over the current regime of inaccessible paper and electronic silos. and when semantically interoperable solutions arrive, we can consider them, if they are practical and suit the site level business processes of primary care. with best regards, [wr] - - - - - - - - On Nov 27, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Thomas Beale wrote: > Will Ross wrote: >> thomas, >> >> i appreciate your concern for what you allege is dr. grove's naivete, >> but i share dr. grove's concern that when it comes to intelligent >> health information systems, the perfect is the enemy of the good. >> in the age of wikis, soa, voip, wifi and rfid there is no reason we >> cannot leverage existing secure internet transport and composing >> capabilities to substantially improve the interoperability of >> existing clinical text and image files. > well, that is just IHE/XDS, i.e. computing with no semantics - the > interoperability is only between humans, not computable. So, yes, the > information is a bit more avialable, but it is not integrated, > searchable (beyond simplistic meta-data), computable (in the sense of > being able to do longitudinal queries on an EHR or across EHRs), it is > not versioned, mergeable...in short, it is not any kind of > patient-centric EHR, just a bunch of documents. >> when i look at where dr. >> grove's fire is directed -- at overpriced enterprise packages that >> deliberately build new proprietary silos -- i find an ally who is >> saying the right disruptive things to people who would never listen >> to me. >> > sure - proprietary silos are of no interest, no doubt about that. But > just saying "let's use all the modern technology" isn't going to solve > anything much. It has to be applied in a solution that actually > addresses the problem. > > - thomas > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > [wr] - - - - - - - - will ross project manager mendocino informatics 216 west perkins street, suite 206 ukiah, california 95482 usa 707.462.6369 [office] 707.462.5015 [fax] www.minformatics.com - - - - - - - - "Getting people to adopt common standards is impeded by patents." Sir Tim Berners-Lee, BCS, 2006 - - - - - - - -