I believe a possible answer is to fly above the "certification" process, which is a shallow excuse for a meaningful evaluation process (e.g., see my eight part series on the mission hostile user experience presented by many "certified" systems), and move to robust tests of effectiveness and user experience.
Regarding the latter, comparison of FOSS products to CCHIT "certified" products would be most interesting. Develop a truly meaningful and open "Certification Process" of your own, keep it as free of Conflict of Interest as does, say, the ECRI Institute that evaluates medical devices, and push its superiority - especially to governments in other countries - over the bureaucratically-defined U.S. CCHIT "certfication." -- SS -------------------------------- Scot M. Silverstein, MD Consultant in Medical Informatics Teaching faculty in Healthcare Informatics and IT (Sept. 2007-) Director, Institute for Healthcare Informatics (2005-7) College of Information Science and Technology Drexel University 3141 Chestnut St. Philadelphia, PA 19104-2875 Email: scot.silverst...@ischool.drexel.edu Bio: www.ischool.drexel.edu/faculty/ssilverstein/biography.htm Common Examples of HIT difficulty: www.ischool.drexel.edu/faculty/ssilverstein/medinfo.htm ARS KU3E, member www.arrl.org -----openhea...@yahoogroups.com wrote: ----- To: openhealth@yahoogroups.com From: Mark Spohr <msp...@nnk.com> Sent by: openhealth@yahoogroups.com Date: 04/14/2009 04:34AM Subject: Re: [openhealth] foss / cchit meeting details Thanks to Fred and Tim for their thoughtful comments. I think we have a good understanding of the situation. It is good that the CCHIT people are listening but FOSS needs a solution that will work today. I think that Tim's suggestion has merit. We should have the option to self certify software and let the market sort out winners and losers. It is anti-competitive to have a monopoly gatekeeper. If CCHIT does not recognize self-certification then we should just do it ourselves. They could try to block this by claiming copyright, trademark or legislative authority but all of these lie on shaky legal ground. Depending on how vigorously they defend their "rights", they could make life difficult so it would be best to try to reach some sort of accommodation. They are not likely to respond quickly to our needs so it may be best to pursue a self-certification path along with negotiations with CCHIT. If they do respond positively, then the self-certification work could be used as the foundation of a CCHIT self-certification label. If not, we could move forward indepently with a FOSS certified label. All the best Mark On 4/13/09, Tim Cook < timothywayne. c...@gmail. com > wrote: > On Mon, 2009-04-13 at 15:12 -0400, Scot Silverstein wrote: >> >> >> Perhaps you mean, "do not want it to work for you." > > Perhaps. But I look at this issue from a different perspective. > > It seems that most members of this community are wanting to play by > their rules. > > They have made the specifications public. The FOSS community,, being of > the nature it is, should turn this aound and make a positive out of it. > > I have posted my comment; and there are some other EXCELLENT > comments/points to be considered on Fred's page at: > > http://www.fredtrot ter.com/2009/ 04/11/towards- fair-ehr- certification/ > > Cheers, > Tim > > > -- > Timothy Cook, MSc > Health Informatics Research & Development Services > LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin .com/in/timothyw aynecook > Skype ID == timothy.cook > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ***** > *You may get my Public GPG key from popular keyservers or * > *from this link http://timothywayne .cook.googlepage s.com/home* > ************ ********* ********* ********* ********* ********* ***** > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------ --------- --------- ------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > -- Sent from my mobile device Mark Spohr, MD [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]