Thanks for replying... I sent you a private email about coordinating our
efforts.

-FT

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, <karo...@it-science-center.de> wrote:

> Hi Fred!
>
> Congratulations! As co-chair of the EFMI LIFOSS WG and member of the IMIA
> OS WG I am looking forward to work together with LibertyHSF. I am confident
> that we share the same long term goals and that we can collaborate to
> achieve these comon goals.
>
> Our current focus is on fostering the collaboration between different FLOSS
> in health care projects and to organize conferences and workshops to
> disseminate knowledge about the benefits and prospects of FLOSS. We recently
> organized a workshop at BIOSTEC (OSEHC) and will organize a second edition
> of OSEHC in 2010. We also organized a workshop at Med-e-Tel 2009 and will
> have another one in 2010. At MIE2009 there will be a workshop about FLOSS
> -HC and in 2010 we participate in the organization of the International
> workshop on ehealth in emerging economies (IWEEE).
>
> Thanks for taking the initiative of founding LibertyHSF and looking forward
> to work together with you.
>
> Best wishes,
> Thomas Karopka
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> FOSS Community,
>
> I am writing to let you know that Liberty Health Software
> Foundation has received 501c3 status.
> Dr. Valdes and I have been working on this for over two years and we are
> ready to present this to the community-at-large.
>
> The purpose of Liberty Health Software Foundation (LibertyHSF) is to
> improve
> the delivery and science of healthcare by supporting the development and
> use
> of Free/Libre Healthcare Software.
>
> We are in a unique position with the organization because we want to both
> be
> careful with how we set things up for long term sustainability, as well as
> getting some critical tasks done now. I wish this email were somewhat more
> organized, but as it stands it is just several lists of directions that we
> want to take as well as open questions about a slew of issues. Feel free to
> email me privately or call me to discuss anything that you would prefer to
> remain outside the public forum. I am and will remain baised towards those
> who have contributed towards our community, I will listen to everyone, but
> I
> will act based on the opinions of those who have sacrificed for our
> movement.
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> How do we choose a BOD?
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> We want a mix of FOSS corporate and FOSS community interests. Sometimes
> what
> our successful FOSS companies do is in the interests of the FOSS developer
> and user interests and sometimes it is not? Our community has several
> non-vendor roles: deployers, which include IT specialist who deploy FOSS,
> clinical users, developers and finally the consumers who have their health
> data stored in FOSS systems. How do we balance community and vendor
> interests?
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> We want to include and embrace hybrid FOSS/proprietary companies like
> Mysis,
> ECW and DSS but still acknowledge that at least part of their interests are
> to support proprietary software. How do we strike a balance of encouraging
> the risks that these hybrid companies are taking, but still remaining true
> to the FOSS values?
>
> Liberty HSF goal: Certification: Create a certification system compatible
> with FOSS
>               -> Current plan: work with CCHIT to become the scholarship
> organization for CCHIT certification, and to make CCHIT have a reasonable
> cert option for FOSS
>               -> Backup plan: become an FOSS oriented CCHIT alternative
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> How do we deal with CCHIT as an organization AND as a community of
> independent thinkers?
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> When do we decide that we need to 'fork' CCHIT and setup an alternative
> certification system?
>
> Liberty HSF goal: Vendor organization: be a FOSS EHRVA (this is what we are
> talking about here)
>               -> Represent FOSS Vendors the way that EHRVA claims to and
> HIMSS pretends it does not.
>               -> Lobby (in compliance with the rules for 501c3) for FOSS
> vendor interests
>               -> Create our own definition of 'meaningful use' to through
> into the mix
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> We need to give a vehicle the FOSS vendors to express their views, as
> distinct from the community. Vendor profitability is critical to our
> community, we need FOSS vendors to form the backbone of our community. How
> do we carve out a space for vendors specifically, while ensuring that the
> overall purpose of Liberty HSF to represent every member of our community
> is
> not damaged?
>
> -> Community Organization: be a FOSS HIMSS
>               -> Create and back FOSS conferences (like DOCHS and
> FOSSHEALTH)
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> How do we run better conferences and meetings so that eventually we can
> compete with HIMSS?
>
> -> Development organization: be a FOSS RWJ
>               -> Fund and/or internally develop FOSS solutions that are
> 'orphan', the kind of projects that are not clearly profitable, but are
> still useful.
>                           -> Like documentation?
>                           -> Like user manuals?
>                           -> Like toolkits?
>                           -> Like services that the community needs, like
> CA services etc etc
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> How do we tell the difference between projects that need extra development
> dollars and coders, and those that are largely self-sufficient? How do we
> choose what projects to support? To a great extent, this will have to be
> determined by those who donate either time or money?
>
> OPEN QUESTION?
> How do we interact with other organizations like Open Health Tools and
> WorldVistA?
>
> My plan so far:
>
> The following seems obviously true and represents 'already made' decisions.
>
> - We need to move away from me as benevolent dictator of this
>   organization quickly, to establish credibility. But a full BOD should be
>   something that the community has input on, we should have general
>   nominations etc etc. So Dr. Valdes, David Whitten and I will appoint an
>   arbitrary interim BOD (announced soon) which will allow us to move
> quickly
>   and take our time thinking about the BOD issue long term.
>   - No one is going to have tons of time for this, and there need to be
>   sub-groupings of LibertyHSF for different purposes, sub-groups should
> have
>   latitude to take positions for LibertyHSF on particular issues. These
> should
>   take the form of small committees.
>   - Obvious initial groups include:
>   - A vendor association committee, made up of representatives of FOSS and
>   Hybrid vendors in order to establish strictly vendor positions. A
> critical
>   first question for this group will be how does the FOSS community define
>   'meaningful use'?
>   - A certification committee who will take over my role as chief
>   negotiator with CCHIT and determine when and if LibertyHSF needs to
> become a
>   certifying body.
>   - Conferences and Development committees are equally important, but as we
>   have no general funds for development yet that is a non-issue, and the
>   conferences are already happening without LibertyHSF so these can wait.
>
> My short-term priorities are to create grass roots lobbying during this
> politically critical time and to sort out the certification issue ASAP.
> Should I have other very-short term priorities?
>
> Long term my priorities for LibertyHSF are:
> to create an formal meeting place for the vendors in the industry that
> represents them towards governments,
> to sponsor important development that is not particularly 'profitable'
> (assuming vendors will sponsor profitable development), like documentation,
> or helpful libraries.
> to create a conference or series of conferences that become the central
> meeting point(s) for our community
> to increase between project collaboration
> to educate clinicians about software freedom
> to lobby in support of FOSS in healthcare
> to encourage the use of FOSS in health academia
> to collaboratively develop standards/position documents when no other
> existing organization can/will address the issue
> to apply for grants for development funds
> to provide education for the implications of FOSS licensing in healthcare
> to provide a trusted third party for devisive community issues
> to make health databases and health data services available in a FOSS
> compatible fashion, (like a FOSS drug database)
> to encourage proprietary health software vendors to become hybrid or purse
> FOSS software vendors
> to remain neutral to particular projects but still recognizing the
> relevance
> of a user base (i.e. no preference between Canonical and Redhat but still
> recognize that GNU/Linux is more relevant than FreeDOS)
> to make LibertyHSF -our- organization and not just -my- organization... to
> that end:
>
> What long term and short term priorities am I missing? What does the
> community want and need from this organization?
>
> --
> Fred Trotter
> http://www.fredtrotter.com
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