Sorry I am just catching up on the board list. I discovered that I was only subscribed to the other list.
I agree with Mike. I think the better approach is keeping the Executive committee small and focused. I think having all of the committee chairs involved will tend to expand it's scope. I would prefer more full board meetings if they are required. Having half of the board on the exec committee will tend to marginalize the other members. John B. On 2010-01-16, at 5:26 AM, Mike Jones wrote: > With respect to the executive committee, I'm surprised that you're not > listing a third option: Let the executive committee remain as is. I for > one, I don't see it as broken, so I don't see a need to fix it. > > Herewith, I believe that the executive committee should remain the four > officers, plus an international liaison and a technical liaison. > > I *do* agree that the other committees should operate in a more accountable > fashion and report on their progress to the board more often. But doing that > seems independent of the EC to me. (The EC is the one committee that *has* > operated effectively and regularly reported on its results to the full board > -- a model that the other committees should emulate.) > > Covering all bases, I believe that the full board should meet about every 6-8 > weeks. 3 months is far too long between meetings at this stage of the game. > (I do believe that these meetings should be in person whenever possible.) > > -- Mike > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Recordon > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 8:04 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback > > Hey Brian, > It sounds like I'm being slightly misunderstood. I believe that > either of the two following scenarios are reasonable. > > 1) The Executive Committee is made up of the four officers and one > chair from each remaining Committee. It's very likely that there will > be overlap between Officers and Committee chairs. This means that the > Executive Committee is around ten people. With strong leadership and > agenda setting these calls should be productive. > > 2) The Executive Committee is made up of the four officers and it > solely focuses on the logistics which go into keeping the organization > really moving forward. (Things like Don's contract, the budget, and > that each Committee is making progress.) We would then have a > Leadership Committee (<insert better name here>) which is made up of > the Executive Committee and one chair from each remaining Committee. > This Committee would be empowered to tackle execution and coordination > issues across the organization; much like an executive team at a > company. > > Part of my goal is ensuring that there is both regular accountability > of each Committee to a group smaller than the Board itself and that > each Committee has a meaningful forum to raise organizational needs on > a regular basis. > > I imagine that the full board then meets only once a quarter and each > Committee (including the Executive and/or Leadership) meets at least > monthly with the majority of their work occurring between meetings via > mailing lists. > > --David > > On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Brian Kissel <[email protected]> wrote: >> So its sounding like most people would prefer or at least be comfortable >> with keeping the EC small as long as we ensure that: >> >> >> >> · we have the right committees (i.e. make sure we add/have one >> focused on adoption with good representation by RPs) >> >> · the Committees have strong leadership (including board members as >> co-chairs) and are communicating with the full board on a timely basis >> >> · the board and EC make sure that the OIDF is properly supporting >> the Committees and managing any cross committee functional issues that may >> be relevant >> >> If that's the case, then the EC elections coming up next week will only be >> for the Chair, Vice-Chair, Secretary, and Treasurer's positions. Don >> Thibeau as Executive Director is also a member ex-officio. >> >> >> >> In addition to the 6 committees that David has proposed at >> http://wiki.openid.net/2010-Planning, are there any other committees that we >> collectively feel we should start out the year with? We can always add and >> retire committees as necessary, but want to make sure we have the right ones >> to start out the year. >> >> >> >> · Adoption. Charter: Develop OpenID as a product and largely >> working with relying parties to "bring the voice of the customer" while >> looking at branding, usability, and delivered value. >> >> · Government. Charter: Support the needs of the US Federal >> Government and other governments looking to deploy OpenID. >> >> · Security. Charter: Working with the Technology Committee and >> various Working Groups, ensure that OpenID's security model is appropriate >> for how it is being deployed. >> >> · Technology. Charter: Oversee the technical Working Groups' >> progress and liase between them and the Adoption, Government, and Security >> Committees. >> >> · Legal. Charter: Oversee, protect, and develop the >> Foundation's bylaws and IP it is responsible for such as copyrights and >> trademarks World-wide. >> >> · International Outreach. Charter: Coordinate and support the work >> of OpenID communities primarily outside of North America. Collaborate with >> OpenID Europe and Japan. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Brian >> >> ___________ >> >> >> >> Brian Kissel >> >> CEO - JanRain, Inc. >> >> [email protected] >> >> Mobile: 503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502 >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Recordon >> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 2:43 PM >> To: [email protected] >> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback >> >> >> >> And thanks for the edits! >> >> >> >> Personally I'm fine with the Executive Committee being the four >> >> officers assuming that it's scope and role is fairly small. >> >> >> >> Whether it's part of the Executive Committee or separate, I believe >> >> that there is a need for a regularly meeting group of the Officers and >> >> Chairs. This group would be smaller than the Board itself and ensure >> >> that the Foundation is supporting the needs of all of the Committees >> >> and tackle cross-functional issues. This group must be empowered by >> >> the Board to make decisions and thus progress. This is why I can also >> >> see a model where we re-charter the Executive Committee to have this >> >> role. >> >> >> >> I think about this much like how companies have executive teams that >> >> generally have one representative from each major business function. >> >> >> >> --David >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Brian Kissel <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thanks David, great idea. Highly encourage everyone to look at David's >> >>> document and provide your feedback. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Cheers, >> >>> >> >>> Brian >> >>> >> >>> ___________ >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Brian Kissel >> >>> >> >>> CEO - JanRain, Inc. >> >>> >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> >> >>> Mobile: 503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502 >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Increase registrations, engage users, and grow your brand with RPX. Learn >> >>> more at www.rpxnow.com >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> From: [email protected] >> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of David Recordon >> >>> Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 1:35 AM >> >>> >> >>> To: [email protected] >> >>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I think better when analyzing proposals. So put >> >>> together http://wiki.openid.net/2010-Planning which lists the officer >>> roles >> >>> we need to fill and a stab at the various Committees and chairs (based off >> >>> of this thread Don's deck). >> >>> >> >>> It's a wiki, please be editing! >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> --David >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Chris Messina <[email protected]> >> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> It would seem that renaming Marketing to Adoption might be a prudent move, >> >>> if it also brings with it certain criteria for success and metrics to help >> >>> gauge progress. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> I think that the "Marketing" committee was ill-defined and had weak >>> support >> >>> - especially from a branding perspective where there is still no agreement >> >>> on how important OpenID is a consumer brand. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> As such, I can see how the first priority should be Adoption, which could >> >>> include pushing for the test suite and improving the libraries, which >>> would >> >>> be followed by a more rigorous marketing approach. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Otherwise, I agree with focusing on committees, but I also think that we >> >>> need to come up with a better approach to encourage progress within the >> >>> committees, and for them to report their progress on the openid.net >>> website >> >>> and lists. I think we've done a poor job communicating with the outside >> >>> world what is going on with OpenID - and participation on these lists >>> alone >> >>> does not suffice. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Chris >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:55 PM, David Recordon <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> Yes, which is why one of our Committees must be directly focused on >> >>> making RPs successful. We need to disband our current Marketing >> >>> Committee - it hasn't done anything - and create appropriate >> >>> Committees with clear goals and leaders. >> >>> >> >>> --David >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Allen Tom <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> Given that adoption depends on RPs actually adopting OpenID, I think it's >> >>>> important that we visibly demonstrate to the community that RPs (or at >> >>>> least >> >>>> potential RPs) have a voice. >> >>>> >> >>>> Allen >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> On 1/14/10 7:23 PM, "David Recordon" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> 2010 is the year where we must work on developing OpenID as a product >> >>>> beyond >> >>>> just a technology. That said, I don't think that extending the Executive >> >>>> Committee with another appointed liaison role is the correct approach. >> >>>> >> >>>> This year we must also push work out from the Board into Committees. >>>> This >> >>>> both broadens the pool of people who can directly become involved and >> >>>> forces >> >>>> us as an organization to increase the value for non-sustaining members. >> >>>> >> >>>> I believe that the Executive Committee should be chartered to either: >> >>>> 1) remain small (no more than five) and perform the execution work not >> >>>> done >> >>>> in the Committees themselves, or >> >>>> 2) be made up of the Officers (president, vice president, secretary, >> >>>> and treasurer) and the chair of each Committee to focus on tackling >> >>>> execution issues across the organization as a whole. >> >>>> >> >>>> I am supportive of being more formulaic to the organizations leadership >> >>>> structure. >> >>>> >> >>>> --David >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Brian Kissel <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> Well, I guess I didn't wait ;-) As I said on the call yesterday, I think >> >>>> Daniel's idea is a good one. We added the technical and international >> >>>> liaison roles to ensure we had sufficient breadth of perspective at the >> >>>> executive committee working level, and I think it served us well in 2009. >> >>>> Given that we really want to continue to drive adoption and usage in >>>> 2010, >> >>>> having a representative on the EC that brings the "voice of the customer" >> >>>> is >> >>>> a good thing. We have some new board members that bring that viewpoint >> >>>> and >> >>>> it would be great to make the most of this in the coming year. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> >> >>>> Brian >> >>>> ___________ >> >>>> >> >>>> Brian Kissel <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254> >> >>>> CEO - JanRain, Inc. >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> Mobile: 503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> From: [email protected] >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Brian Kissel >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 6:06 PM >> >>>> >> >>>> To: [email protected] >> >>>> Subject: Re: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks Don, I'll wait a bit to see how others respond before putting in >>>> my >> >>>> +1 >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers, >> >>>> >> >>>> Brian >> >>>> ___________ >> >>>> >> >>>> Brian Kissel <http://www.linkedin.com/pub/0/10/254> >> >>>> CEO - JanRain, Inc. >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> Mobile: 503.342.2668 | Fax: 503.296.5502 >> >>>> >> >>>> Increase registrations, engage users, and grow your brand with RPX. >>>> Learn >> >>>> more at www.rpxnow.com <http://www.rpxnow.com/> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> From: [email protected] >> >>>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Don Thibeau >> >>>> (OIDF ED) >> >>>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2010 5:58 PM >> >>>> To: [email protected] >> >>>> Cc: 'Daniel Jacobson' >> >>>> Subject: [OpenID board] OpenID Update: Orientation Briefing Feedback >> >>>> >> >>>> OIDF Board Members >> >>>> Yesterday the new members of the OpenID Board of Directors received an >> >>>> orientation briefing on many of the plans and priorities we will discuss >> >>>> on >> >>>> our first meeting Jan 20th. While not an official meeting, the agenda >> >>>> previewed some of key issues the new board will consider as well as info >> >>>> for >> >>>> our budget development and committee process for 2010. The relevant >> >>>> content >> >>>> from the orientation briefing will be updated and included as part of the >> >>>> background material for the teleconference on the 20th. >> >>>> >> >>>> For your information: >> >>>> One of the suggestions that came out of that discussion was a suggestion >> >>>> from Daniel Jacobson that the views of relying parties can be best >> >>>> represented by the addition of a liaison on the executive committee. It >> >>>> was >> >>>> suggested that this new role be similar to that of the international and >> >>>> technical community liaison positions. These "non officer" positions are >> >>>> part of the executive committee by virtue of board convention established >> >>>> last year rather than OIDF by laws. >> >>>> >> >>>> Board Action Item: >> >>>> Please let me know if you are unable to make the teleconference on the >> >>>> 20th >> >>>> and, if desired, to whom you designate as your proxy. >> >>>> >> >>>> Don Thibeau >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> Executive Director >> >>>> The OpenID Foundation >> >>>> http://openid.net >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> board mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> ________________________________ >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> board mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >>>> >> >>>> _______________________________________________ >> >>>> board mailing list >> >>>> [email protected] >> >>>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> board mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Chris Messina >> >>> Open Web Advocate, Google >> >>> >> >>> Personal: http://factoryjoe.com >> >>> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/chrismessina >> >>> >> >>> This email is: [ ] shareable [X] ask first [ ] private >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> board mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >>> board mailing list >> >>> [email protected] >> >>> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >>> >> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> board mailing list >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> _______________________________________________ >> board mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board >> >> > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board > > _______________________________________________ > board mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board _______________________________________________ board mailing list [email protected] http://lists.openid.net/mailman/listinfo/openid-board
