I don't believe the acronym NSSA - for Native Single Authorization Agent is
taken in computer science contexts (the National Scholastic Surfing Association
notwithstanding).
I agree with John that the "single" is important and agree with Tony that
"single" doesn't qualify "sign-on" in this case.
Can we go with the name Native Single Authorization Agent and the mailing list
name openid-specs-nssa and call it good?
-- Mike
From: Broberg, Jeffrey C [mailto:jeffrey.brob...@ca.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:27 PM
To: Mike Jones; John Bradley
Cc: sp...@openid.net; John Ehrig; Don Thibeau
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
Tony,
SAA -> IBM Systems Application Architecture which is from the prehistoric days
jeff
From: Mike Jones
<michael.jo...@microsoft.com<mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com>>
Date: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 3:22 PM
To: John Bradley <jbrad...@pingidentity.com<mailto:jbrad...@pingidentity.com>>
Cc: "sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>"
<sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>>, John Ehrig
<jeh...@inventures.com<mailto:jeh...@inventures.com>>, Don Thibeau
<d...@oidf.org<mailto:d...@oidf.org>>
Subject: RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
That would work for me. I do believe (as specs council member) that getting a
name for the working group that people believe is accurate and reflective of
what the work is intended to accomplish is important.
-- Mike
From: John Bradley [mailto:jbrad...@pingidentity.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:20 PM
To: Mike Jones
Cc: Anthony Nadalin; Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau;
sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>; John Ehrig
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
In as much as people believe they are signing on to native applications I think
that openid-specs-native-sso is a fine name.
On the other hand technically we are using a single
authentication/authorization event to authorize an agent to authorize further
apps.
So we could invent a new acronym for Single Authorization Agent (SAA) to get
around the objection to signon.
openid-specs-native-saa
I think the single is important.
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On 2013-07-17, at 3:07 PM, Mike Jones
<michael.jo...@microsoft.com<mailto:michael.jo...@microsoft.com>> wrote:
So you'd prefer that the work be called something closer to "Native Application
Authorization"?
From: Anthony Nadalin
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50 AM
To: Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau
Cc: Mike Jones; John Bradley; sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>; John
Ehrig
Subject: RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
I would have been too young back in the 90s
I don't like SSO in the name as this is basically this is just a way to
authorize an app to interact with one or more resource serves on your behalf
From: Paul Madsen [mailto:paulmad...@rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:39 AM
To: Don Thibeau
Cc: Anthony Nadalin; Mike Jones; John Bradley;
sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>; John Ehrig
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
I am 99% confident that *our* beloved Tony was not part of the R&B group from
Oakland, briefly popular in the 90s.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9!
On 7/17/13 2:33 PM, Don Thibeau wrote:
Paul
I don't think "Tony Tony Tony" is a good name for a working group :)
Don Thibeau
The OpenID Foundation<http://openid.net>
On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Paul Madsen wrote:
Tony Tony Tony, how I've missed our time together
The WG's mandate is to profile OIDC to enable an SSO model for native mobile
applications.
Can you suggest a better (concise & memorable) descriptor for a mail list
identifier?
paul
On 7/17/13 2:17 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:
That's a totally useless name
From:
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[mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Paul Madsen
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:59 AM
To: Mike Jones
Cc: John Bradley; sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>; John Ehrig; Don
Thibeau
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
that list name is fine
thanks
On 7/17/13 1:51 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
John, are you able to create the new mailing list at
lists.openid.net<http://lists.openid.net> or do we have to
asksupp...@osuosl.org<mailto:supp...@osuosl.org> for the list creation?
Paul and other WG creators, what name do you want the list to have?
openid-specs-native-sso?
-- Mike
From: Don Thibeau [mailto:d...@oidf.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:03 AM
To: Paul Madsen
Cc: n-sakimura; John Ehrig;
openid-specs@lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net>; John
Bradley; Mike Jones
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
John Ehrig can set up the web site space and the online Docusign process for
IPR collection. If done right away it saves all concerned lots of time and
hassle.
Don Thibeau
The OpenID Foundation<http://openid.net/>
On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Paul Madsen wrote:
Thanks Nat,
Don, can you direct me to whomever I should work with on the WG list & page
logistics?
Paul
On 7/16/13 6:08 AM, n-sakimura wrote:
The WG formation is deemed to be approved per section 4.2 of the OpenID Process
Document v.1.5 of 2009.
A new mailing list should be established promptly per section 4.3 of the above
document. Also, a WG web pages should be set up at
openid.net<http://openid.net/>. You should also ask the secretary of the
foundation to announce the first meeting of the WG, in which scope approval and
the chairs selection should be done.
Note: the first meeting can only be done after the WG has collected the IPR
agreement from the participants, so it may not be as quick as you may wish, but
it has to be done. BTW, NRI's agreement is already in as we have a blanket
agreement like Google.
Nat
(2013/07/15 14:56), Paul Madsen wrote:
Next steps?
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Paul Madsen
Ping Identity
Anthony Nadalin<tony...@microsoft.com><mailto:tony...@microsoft.com> wrote:
I believe if you dig you will see that there is potential for IPR from both
Apple and Facebook.
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[mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of n-sakimura
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:20 PM
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Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group
Could you kindly spell it out?
From what I have been hearing, Facebook was just using fast application
switch, which is nothing more than Self-issued thing that we have, and iOS's
native login support given to facebook, twitter, and Weibo.
Perhaps you are thinking of something else.
Of course, I could be complete wrong. I should probably read
https://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/ios-6/
and
http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Social/Reference/Social_Framework/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012233
as well.
Having said that, if Apple's interface is not open, perhaps it is a task for an
industry consortia like OpenID Foundation to go and ask Apple to open up the
API for other IdPs as well. Do not know if they are going to listen, but still,
it might be our duty to try.
Nat
(2013/07/04 7:30), Anthony Nadalin wrote:
I also have a concern that we might be infringing on the Facebook SSO
(iOS) IPR with this effort.
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