That works better

From: Mike Jones
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 12:07 PM
To: Anthony Nadalin; Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau
Cc: John Bradley; sp...@openid.net; John Ehrig
Subject: RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

So you'd prefer that the work be called something closer to "Native Application 
Authorization"?

From: Anthony Nadalin
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:50 AM
To: Paul Madsen; Don Thibeau
Cc: Mike Jones; John Bradley; sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>; John 
Ehrig
Subject: RE: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

I would have been too young back in the 90s

I don't like SSO in the name as this is basically this is just a way to 
authorize an app to interact with one or more resource serves on your behalf

From: Paul Madsen [mailto:paulmad...@rogers.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:39 AM
To: Don Thibeau
Cc: Anthony Nadalin; Mike Jones; John Bradley; 
sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>; John Ehrig
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

I am 99% confident that *our* beloved Tony was not part of the R&B group from 
Oakland, briefly popular in the 90s.....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony!_Toni!_Ton%C3%A9!
On 7/17/13 2:33 PM, Don Thibeau wrote:
Paul

I don't think "Tony Tony Tony"  is a good name for a working group :)

Don Thibeau
The OpenID Foundation<http://openid.net>



On Jul 17, 2013, at 2:30 PM, Paul Madsen wrote:

Tony Tony Tony, how I've missed our time together

The WG's mandate is to profile OIDC to enable an SSO model for native mobile 
applications.

Can you suggest a better (concise & memorable) descriptor for a mail list 
identifier?

paul
On 7/17/13 2:17 PM, Anthony Nadalin wrote:
That's a totally useless name

From: 
openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net>
 [mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of Paul Madsen
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:59 AM
To: Mike Jones
Cc: John Bradley; sp...@openid.net<mailto:sp...@openid.net>; John Ehrig; Don 
Thibeau
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

that list name is fine

thanks
On 7/17/13 1:51 PM, Mike Jones wrote:
John, are you able to create the new mailing list at 
lists.openid.net<http://lists.openid.net> or do we have to ask 
supp...@osuosl.org<mailto:supp...@osuosl.org> for the list creation?

Paul and other WG creators, what name do you want the list to have?  
openid-specs-native-sso?

                                                            -- Mike

From: Don Thibeau [mailto:d...@oidf.org]
Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 5:03 AM
To: Paul Madsen
Cc: n-sakimura; John Ehrig; 
openid-specs@lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net>; John 
Bradley; Mike Jones
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

John Ehrig can set up the web site space and the online Docusign process for 
IPR collection.  If done right away it saves all concerned lots of time and 
hassle.


Don Thibeau
The OpenID Foundation<http://openid.net/>



On Jul 17, 2013, at 7:59 AM, Paul Madsen wrote:


Thanks Nat,

Don, can you direct me to whomever I should work with on the WG list & page 
logistics?

Paul
On 7/16/13 6:08 AM, n-sakimura wrote:
The WG formation is deemed to be approved per section 4.2 of the OpenID Process 
Document v.1.5 of 2009.

A new mailing list should be established promptly per section 4.3 of the above 
document. Also, a WG web pages should be set up at 
openid.net<http://openid.net/>. You should also ask the secretary of the 
foundation to announce the first meeting of the WG, in which scope approval and 
the chairs selection should be done.

Note: the first meeting can only be done after the WG has collected the IPR 
agreement from the participants, so it may not be as quick as you may wish, but 
it has to be done. BTW, NRI's agreement is already in as we have a blanket 
agreement like Google.

Nat

(2013/07/15 14:56), Paul Madsen wrote:

Next steps?

-----------
Paul Madsen
Ping Identity

Anthony Nadalin<tony...@microsoft.com><mailto:tony...@microsoft.com>  wrote:


I believe if you dig you will see that there is potential for IPR from both 
Apple and Facebook.

-----Original Message-----
From: 
openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net>
 [mailto:openid-specs-boun...@lists.openid.net] On Behalf Of n-sakimura
Sent: Wednesday, July 3, 2013 10:20 PM
To: openid-specs@lists.openid.net<mailto:openid-specs@lists.openid.net>
Subject: Re: [OIDFSC] Native application SSO Working Group

Could you kindly spell it out?

 From what I have been hearing, Facebook was just using fast application 
switch, which is nothing more than Self-issued thing that we have, and iOS's 
native login support given to facebook, twitter, and Weibo.
Perhaps you are thinking of something else.

Of course, I could be complete wrong. I should probably read
    https://developers.facebook.com/docs/howtos/ios-6/
and

http://developer.apple.com/library/ios/#documentation/Social/Reference/Social_Framework/_index.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/TP40012233

as well.

Having said that, if Apple's interface is not open, perhaps it is a task for an 
industry consortia like OpenID Foundation to go and ask Apple to open up the 
API for other IdPs as well. Do not know if they are going to listen, but still, 
it might be our duty to try.

Nat

(2013/07/04 7:30), Anthony Nadalin wrote:

I also have a concern that we might be infringing on the Facebook SSO
(iOS) IPR with this effort.



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