I’m very excited about Jpro (and awaiting details) - it’s very cool! I still assume deployment is somewhat demanding though, since devs need to provide a virtual CPU and robust network connection for each user. Not as simple as copying a WASM/JS file to a website.
jeff > On Dec 8, 2016, at 8:17 AM, Tom Eugelink <t...@tbee.org> wrote: > > @Jeff: You may find the jpro.io approach interesting for running apps in the > webbrowser. > > Tom > > > On 8-12-2016 15:09, Jeff Martin wrote: >> Be wary of selection bias >> <http://www.johndcook.com/blog/2008/01/21/selection-bias-and-bombers/> when >> asking advice from us on this list. I would advocate a feature based on who >> *isn’t* using JavaFX: WebAssembly browser support. >> >> JavaFX is great if you need to build a battleship class app - something big >> and specialized enough that devs don’t mind packaging/signing/deployment >> issues and users don’t mind downloads and security issues. It’s not as >> attractive for smaller scale apps. And most battleship class apps start as >> smaller apps. >> >> With very little resources, I was able to use a JavaFX/Swing based UI kit >> and TeaVM to build apps that run on the desktop and in the browser. I would >> think Oracle would be able to nail this with moderate effort - particularly >> with WebAssembly coming out this year. Hire/buy the TeaVM guy - he’s >> brilliant. >> >> The JavaFX team has done something like this before: JavaFXPackager - a >> feature so useful and needed that it became part of the whole system. I’m >> not sure we need new table features or such. If someone is going to write a >> spreadsheet, they’d be better off rolling their own super-table, etc. >> >> http://reportmill.com/snaptea/BusyBox/ >> >> jeff >> >>> On Dec 7, 2016, at 5:45 PM, Jonathan Giles <jonathan.gi...@oracle.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi folks, >>> >>> Development on JDK 9 is slowly starting to ramp down, and we are starting >>> to turn our attention to the goals for JavaFX in JDK 10 and beyond. We are >>> starting to compile our list of what we think is important, but we really >>> want to hear from the community about what their highest priorities are to >>> them. As always, it's important to keep in mind what JavaFX is (e.g. it >>> isn't aiming to be a high-performance game engine), but even still there >>> are bound to be a number of places where people might want to weigh in, for >>> example: >>> >>> * New layout containers (e.g. Flexbox) >>> * Public APIs for UI control behaviors >>> * Marlin renderer enabled by default >>> * Support for CSS animations >>> * CSS performance improvements >>> * TableView improvements (cell spanning, row / column freezing, etc) >>> * TableView performance >>> * Focus traversal API >>> * WebGL support in WebView >>> * Improved image I/O support >>> * A JavaFX equivalent of the AWT Desktop APIs >>> * Multi-res image API >>> * NIO-backed writable images >>> >>> If there are other areas of interest that aren't listed here, please start >>> discussing them and we can work together to determine priorities. If all >>> you want to do is add a +1 for one of more of the items above, even that >>> will be very useful. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> -- Jonathan > >
