These are all good points. One thing we can do is make sure that there are open JBS Enhancement issues tracking the features that are being asked for. Prioritizing them, and eventually implementing some of them, will be a discussion for a different day. As Johan said, we don't want to over-commit.

-- Kevin


On 11/27/2023 10:49 AM, Johan Vos wrote:
I've read the responses to this post, and I think they all make sense, so this is great feedback. It's good to know what people are missing/interested in.

However, it makes me a bit nervous to see a growing wishlist while I don't see more funding. Unfortunately, the reality is that most companies want to pay (lots of money) for JavaFX consulting but not for the core development. Other client frameworks typically "solve" this by indirect revenue streams (tie a client to a backend technology or ad-driven revenue system), or by lowering the quality bar. I really want to avoid the latter (and also the ad-driven revenue stream). While it would not be too hard to come up with new features that address most of the requests, I believe we need to make sure that
1. what we deliver is top-quality
2. what we delivered can be maintained for the next 10 years.

Quality and backward compatibility are extremely important to the success of most Java projects. I am aware that the OpenJFX review process is sometimes a bottleneck to get new features in, but it is really something that we have to take very seriously.

I don't want to start the business discussion here, as this is a tech-only list. But I want to be careful with over-promising, as the past years taught me that maintaining the core of JavaFX on a number of supported platforms is already a very challenging task. I am very excited to see our achievements, having 2 major releases every year and many updates, with different LTS versions being supported, delivering SDK's, jmods, maven artifacts.

The work on the core-platform is typically not something that makes the christmas wish-lists, but keep it in mind during the dark days :)

Having said that: on my wishlist is a Headless Glass platform. I'll write more about that later in a separate post.

- Johan





On Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 9:49 AM Dirk Lemmermann <dlemmerm...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hi guys,

    I already mentioned this at the JavaFX BOF at DEVOXX and also
    posted this on Twitter but wanna make sure it gets the visibility
    it deserves:

    All I want for Christmas is … / what I think is needed for JavaFX
    going forward ...

            - removal of AWT
            - a tray API (tray icon)
            - undecorated interactive stage style
            - blur support for stages
            - WebP image format support
            - native embedded browser (Chromium)
            - 3D line and point primitives
            - injection support in FXML for custom controls
            - TableView improvements, aka. TableView2

    (order of items does not imply priority)

    Dirk

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