I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I am not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is anything I can do to further this effort, please let me know!
Dan Ascher On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]>wrote: > I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around > with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a > strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave > incubation and become an full-scale Apache project. > > Thank you. > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68**** >> >> ** ** >> >> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & >> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant >> joins the meeting **** >> >> ** ** >> >> **1) **When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the >> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two >> other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive >> audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if >> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is >> Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the >> hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove >> ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote >> Control Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is >> Moderator, he can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement >> “User is Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a >> moderator. >> >> **** >> >> **2) **I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to >> give exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has >> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control >> the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators). >> >> **** >> >> **3) **It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking >> the centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio >> only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them >> “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control >> exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user >> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the >> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the >> “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these >> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the >> first to join. >> >> **** >> >> **4) **In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the >> green icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, >> it does not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it >> is supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says >> “User speaks”. >> >> **** >> >> **5) **when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), >> they had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending >> video) and one other window like a video window but without any picture as >> the name label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was >> sending audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control >> who had “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users >> still had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”. >> >> **** >> >> **6) **I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, >> and I am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another >> day. Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> Thanks,**** >> >> ** ** >> >> George Kirkham**** >> >> ** ** >> >> IT Manager**** >> >> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) **** >> >> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia**** >> >> T: (02) 6120 1600**** >> >> F: (02) 6273 7181**** >> >> E: [email protected], **** >> >> W: www.co2crc.com.au**** >> >> ** ** >> >> ** ** >> >> *From:* brian mullan [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>**** >> >> ** ** >> >> Sergey >> >> I think you meant to say if you run service on port *=< 1024* you need >> root privilages >> >> **** >> >> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <[email protected]> >> wrote:**** >> >> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root >> users can run services on ports >1024. >> >> >> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/for >> example... >> >> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:**** >> >> Mahmut, >> >> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below, >> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or >> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what >> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on >> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need >> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing. >> >> /etc/init.d/red5 >> >> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir >> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null >> 2>/dev/null & >> >> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties >> >> # HTTP >> >> http.host=0.0.0.0 >> >> http.port=80 >> >> https.port=8443 >> >> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8 >> >> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml >> >> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >> >> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to >> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from >> the server. >> >> I am getting no error information from the log files. >> >> When I do netstat -anp | grep java >> >> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin >> >> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin >> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb >> >> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java >> >> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java >> >> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat >> -anp | grep java” >> >> /etc/init.d/red5 >> >> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME >> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null & >> >> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin >> >> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin >> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb >> >> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >> >> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >> >> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >> >> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >> >> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java >> >> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java >> >> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java >> >> If I >> >> Thanks, >> >> George Kirkham >> >> IT Manager >> >> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) >> >> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia >> >> T: (02) 6120 1600 >> >> F: (02) 6273 7181 >> >> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> >> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> >> >> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >> >> Hi George, >> >> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not >> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings >> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think. >> >> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running >> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root. >> >> Regards, >> >> >> _Mahmut TEKER >> >> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote: >> >> Stephen, >> >> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or >> installed), and nothing else on that port. >> >> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings >> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. >> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for >> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be. >> >> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” >> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this >> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, >> not just a dummy account. >> >> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the >> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you >> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails. >> >> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to >> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone >> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are >> successfully running under ‘nobody’. >> >> Thanks, >> >> George Kirkham >> >> IT Manager >> >> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) >> >> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia >> >> T: (02) 6120 1600 >> >> F: (02) 6273 7181 >> >> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> >> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> >> >> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >> >> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you? >> >> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict. >> >> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here >> >> /usr/lib/red5 >> >> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh >> >> Then start it using the debug mode >> >> ./red5-debug.sh >> >> This will tell you more about why its failing to start. >> >> Cheers >> >> *Stephen Cottham** >> *Group IT Manager (Associate) >> >> Robert Bird Group >> Level 5, 333 Ann St >> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia >> >> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)* >> >> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)* >> >> *Fax: +6173 319 2799* >> >> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)* >> >> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)* >> >> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/> >> >> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/> >> >> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally >> privileged information or copyright material. 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I really do not think the >> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the >> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server >> and it will work on port 80. >> >> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to >> resolved it. >> >> Thanks, >> >> George Kirkham >> >> IT Manager >> >> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) >> >> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia >> >> T: (02) 6120 1600 >> >> F: (02) 6273 7181 >> >> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >> >> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> >> >> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files >> >> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know. >> >> George Kirkham >> >> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> [mailto:[email protected]] >> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM >> *To:* [email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files >> >> Hi George, >> >> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? >> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) >> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the >> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete >> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing. >> >> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other >> languages >> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? >> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators >> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years >> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use >> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a >> translation. >> >> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, >> if so, please let me know. >> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors >> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you >> would actually enter something like this: >> >> <br/> >> >> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>") >> >> >> Sebastian >> >> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> >> >> Hi, >> >> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files >> ? >> >> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common >> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can >> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files >> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset." >> >> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same >> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages >> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to >> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient >> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to >> follow, if so, please let me know. >> >> I noticed that the Japanese file has >> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss"> >> <value>Ms.</value> >> </string> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> George Kirkham >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sebastian Wagner >> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock> >> http://www.openmeetings.de >> http://www.webbase-design.de >> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>**** >> >> ** ** >> > > -- Daniel Ascher, M.Ed. 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