Thanks Alexei. I am very excited about using OpenMeetings. I think this
platform has a lot of potential!

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:39 PM, Alexei Fedotov
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Daniel,
> that's a great asset for community that you dedicate your time using
> Openmeetings and keep good questions coming. Thanks.
>
>
> --
> With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями,
> Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов,
> http://dataved.ru/
> +7 916 562 8095
>
>
> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Daniel Ascher <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I
> am
> > not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is
> anything I
> > can do to further this effort, please let me know!
> >
> > Dan Ascher
> >
> >
> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around
> >> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a
> >> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave
> >> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <[email protected]
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> These I believe are issues, please check and comment.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio &
> >>> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth
> participant
> >>> joins the meeting
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 1)      When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the
> >>> "Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio" column for either of the two
> >>> other participants, the text that hovers is "Allow user to give
> exclusive
> >>> audio", but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive
> audio, if
> >>> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says "User is
> >>> Moderator, he can do anything.", where as it would be more correct if
> the
> >>> hover text said "Remove ability to give exclusive audio", like the
> "Remove
> >>> ability to draw on the whiteboard".  The "Allow/Deny right to Remote
> Control
> >>> Screen" ticks also has the same issue (they display "User is
> Moderator, he
> >>> can do anything.").   In fact in this scenario the statement "User is
> >>> Moderator, he can do anything." is incorrect as this user is not a
> >>> moderator.
> >>>
> >>> 2)      I would have expected that giving users the "Allow user to give
> >>> exclusive audio" would allow users to control the who currently has
> >>> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot
> control
> >>> the use of "exclusive audio" (unless they are made moderators).
> >>>
> >>> 3)      It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking
> the
> >>> centre of  that persons video window, but if a person is set to "Audio
> >>> only", then they don't have a video window so there is no way to grant
> them
> >>> "exclusive audio".  Would it not be better to have a way to control
> >>> exclusive audio from the "Users" list?  Why not use the round green
> (user
> >>> speaks) icon.  (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to
> the
> >>> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the
> >>> "exclusive audio" for the person who was set to "audio only".  But
> these
> >>> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the
> first
> >>> to join.
> >>>
> >>> 4)      In the "Users" list there is a round green icon like the green
> >>> icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it
> does
> >>> not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is
> >>> supposed to?  If it is not, then what does it do?  The hover text says
> "User
> >>> speaks".
> >>>
> >>> 5)      when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video),
> they
> >>> had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending
> video) and
> >>> one other window like a video window but without any picture as the
> name
> >>> label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was
> sending
> >>> audio only.  This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who
> had
> >>> "exclusive audio", but only when a moderator. The other three users
> still
> >>> had no way to give the "audio only" user,  "exclusive audio".
> >>>
> >>> 6)      I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and
> I
> >>> am amazed, I had no echo.  I will try to test this again,  another day.
> >>> Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: [email protected],
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> From: brian mullan [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM
> >>> To: [email protected]
> >>> Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sergey
> >>>
> >>> I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need
> root
> >>> privilages
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <
> [email protected]>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges.
> Non-root
> >>> users can run services on ports >1024.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/
> >>> for example...
> >>>
> >>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Mahmut,
> >>>
> >>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below,
> >>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or
> >>> port 80 ? If you don't mind sharing, what is your server's OS?, and
> what
> >>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on
> >>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need
> >>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing.
> >>>
> >>> /etc/init.d/red5
> >>>
> >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir
> >>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null
> >>> 2>/dev/null &
> >>>
> >>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties
> >>>
> >>> # HTTP
> >>>
> >>> http.host=0.0.0.0
> >>>
> >>> http.port=80
> >>>
> >>> https.port=8443
> >>>
> >>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8
> >>>
> >>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml
> >>>
> >>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect
> to
> >>> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from
> >>> the server.
> >>>
> >>> I am getting no error information from the log files.
> >>>
> >>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java
> >>>
> >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin
> >>>
> >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin
> >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java
> >>>
> >>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for "netstat
> >>> -anp | grep java"
> >>>
> >>> /etc/init.d/red5
> >>>
> >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME
> >>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null &
> >>>
> >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin
> >>>
> >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin
> >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java
> >>>
> >>> If I
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM
> >>> *To:* [email protected]
> >>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> Hi George,
> >>>
> >>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not
> >>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or
> warnings
> >>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think.
> >>>
> >>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running
> >>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _Mahmut TEKER
> >>>
> >>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Stephen,
> >>>
> >>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or
> >>> installed), and nothing else on that port.
> >>>
> >>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running
> openMeetings
> >>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody.
> >>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for
> >>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be.
> >>>
> >>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called "openmeetings"
> >>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this
> >>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory,
> >>> not just a dummy account.
> >>>
> >>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the
> >>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you
> >>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails.
> >>>
> >>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to
> >>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone
> >>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are
> >>> successfully running under 'nobody'.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM
> >>> *To:* [email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> You aren't using Apache on the new Debian server are you?
> >>>
> >>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict.
> >>>
> >>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here
> >>>
> >>> /usr/lib/red5
> >>>
> >>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh
> >>>
> >>> Then start it using the debug mode
> >>>
> >>> ./red5-debug.sh
> >>>
> >>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>>
> >>> *Stephen Cottham**
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> >>>
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> >>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM
> >>> *To:* [email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080.
> >>>
> >>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built
> I
> >>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well.
> >>>
> >>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and
> >>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think
> the
> >>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the
> >>> entire "red5" folder from the new servers to the first (working) server
> >>> and it will work on port 80.
> >>>
> >>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to
> >>> resolved it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> IT Manager
> >>>
> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC)
> >>>
> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia
> >>>
> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600
> >>>
> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181
> >>>
> >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>,
> >>>
> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au>
> >>>
> >>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM
> >>> *To:* [email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
> >>>
> >>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know.
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> [mailto:[email protected]]
> >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM
> >>> *To:* [email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files
> >>>
> >>> Hi George,
> >>>
> >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files?
> >>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated)
> >>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the
> >>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete
> >>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing.
> >>>
> >>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other
> >>> languages
> >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in?
> >>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators
> >>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years
> >>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use
> >>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a
> >>> translation.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow,
> >>> if so, please let me know.
> >>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors
> >>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you
> >>> would actually enter something like this:
> >>>
> >>> &lt;br/&gt;
> >>>
> >>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>")
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sebastian
> >>>
> >>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <[email protected]
> >>> <mailto:[email protected]>>
> >>>
> >>> Hi,
> >>>
> >>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files
> >>> ?
> >>>
> >>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common
> >>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can
> >>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language
> files
> >>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset."
> >>>
> >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same
> >>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages
> >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to
> >>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient
> >>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to
> >>> follow, if so, please let me know.
> >>>
> >>> I noticed that the Japanese file has
> >>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss">
> >>> <value>Ms.</value>
> >>> </string>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>>
> >>> George Kirkham
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Sebastian Wagner
> >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock>
> >>> http://www.openmeetings.de
> >>> http://www.webbase-design.de
> >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com
> >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Daniel Ascher, M.Ed.
> > President
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