Daniel, that's a great asset for community that you dedicate your time using Openmeetings and keep good questions coming. Thanks.
-- With best regards / с наилучшими пожеланиями, Alexei Fedotov / Алексей Федотов, http://dataved.ru/ +7 916 562 8095 On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Daniel Ascher <[email protected]> wrote: > I would like to thank everyone who is working so hard on this project. I am > not an engineer so I can't contribute any coding. But if there is anything I > can do to further this effort, please let me know! > > Dan Ascher > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Alexei Fedotov <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I'm really happy seeing new faces (George, Sergey, Stephen) around >> with thoughtful and skillful posts - Openmeetings needs you, guys, for a >> strong community. The strong community is mandatory for us to leave >> incubation and become an full-scale Apache project. >> >> Thank you. >> >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 6:01 AM, George Kirkham <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, I am testing the functionality in build #68 >>> >>> >>> >>> These I believe are issues, please check and comment. >>> >>> >>> >>> Test scenario, one moderator, two other participants (one with Audio & >>> Video and one with Audio only) then join the meeting. A forth participant >>> joins the meeting >>> >>> >>> >>> 1) When the moderator hovers over the red disable icon of the >>> “Allow/Deny right to give exclusive audio” column for either of the two >>> other participants, the text that hovers is “Allow user to give exclusive >>> audio”, but after they have been granted rights to give exclusive audio, if >>> you hover over the green circled tick, then the text says “User is >>> Moderator, he can do anything.”, where as it would be more correct if the >>> hover text said “Remove ability to give exclusive audio”, like the “Remove >>> ability to draw on the whiteboard”. The “Allow/Deny right to Remote Control >>> Screen” ticks also has the same issue (they display “User is Moderator, he >>> can do anything.”). In fact in this scenario the statement “User is >>> Moderator, he can do anything.” is incorrect as this user is not a >>> moderator. >>> >>> 2) I would have expected that giving users the “Allow user to give >>> exclusive audio” would allow users to control the who currently has >>> exclusive audio (i.e. whose mic is not muted), but the users cannot control >>> the use of “exclusive audio” (unless they are made moderators). >>> >>> 3) It seems the only way to give exclusive audio is by clicking the >>> centre of that persons video window, but if a person is set to “Audio >>> only”, then they don’t have a video window so there is no way to grant them >>> “exclusive audio”. Would it not be better to have a way to control >>> exclusive audio from the “Users” list? Why not use the round green (user >>> speaks) icon. (see point 5 where it was found that the fourth user to the >>> meeting did get a third, video like window where they could control the >>> “exclusive audio” for the person who was set to “audio only”. But these >>> windows did not appear for the moderator or the other two who were the first >>> to join. >>> >>> 4) In the “Users” list there is a round green icon like the green >>> icon that appears in the Video window, but unlike the video window, it does >>> not change to solid green when the user is speaking, I believe it is >>> supposed to? If it is not, then what does it do? The hover text says “User >>> speaks”. >>> >>> 5) when a fourth user joined the meeting (with no audio/video), they >>> had two video windows (moderator and the one user who was sending video) and >>> one other window like a video window but without any picture as the name >>> label of that window indicated that it was the other user who was sending >>> audio only. This fourth user, when made a moderator could control who had >>> “exclusive audio”, but only when a moderator. The other three users still >>> had no way to give the “audio only” user, “exclusive audio”. >>> >>> 6) I did a few audio tests to see how much echo was an issue, and I >>> am amazed, I had no echo. I will try to test this again, another day. >>> Thanks to those who have been working on OpenMeetings. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> George Kirkham >>> >>> >>> >>> IT Manager >>> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) >>> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia >>> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 >>> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 >>> >>> E: [email protected], >>> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> From: brian mullan [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Thursday, 10 May 2012 8:53 AM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >>> >>> >>> >>> Sergey >>> >>> I think you meant to say if you run service on port =< 1024 you need root >>> privilages >>> >>> On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Sergey Kobzar <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> On Linux to run service on port >1024 you need root privileges. Non-root >>> users can run services on ports >1024. >>> >>> >>> http://www.staldal.nu/tech/2007/10/31/why-can-only-root-listen-to-ports-below-1024/ >>> for example... >>> >>> On 05/09/12 02:25, George Kirkham wrote: >>> >>> Mahmut, >>> >>> Thanks for your comments, the configuration that I am using is below, >>> are these settings the same or similar to how you run OpenMeetings or >>> port 80 ? If you don’t mind sharing, what is your server’s OS?, and what >>> would be your configuration settings that gets OpenMeetings to run on >>> port 80 instead of port 5080 ? Maybe there are other areas that I need >>> to modify other that the two that I am currently changing. >>> >>> /etc/init.d/red5 >>> >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c nobody --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir >>> $RED5_HOME --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null >>> 2>/dev/null & >>> >>> /usr/lib/red5/conf/red5.properties >>> >>> # HTTP >>> >>> http.host=0.0.0.0 >>> >>> http.port=80 >>> >>> https.port=8443 >>> >>> http.URIEncoding=UTF-8 >>> >>> /usr/lib/red5/webapps/openmeetings/config.xml >>> >>> <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >>> >>> I run OpenMeetings using http://mydomain.com.au/ and it will redirect to >>> http://mydomain.com.au/openmeetings but then there is no response from >>> the server. >>> >>> I am getting no error information from the log files. >>> >>> When I do netstat -anp | grep java >>> >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4044/soffice.bin >>> >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 22175 4044/soffice.bin >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 4051/java >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 4051/java >>> >>> However when I run as root user, then all works, see below for “netstat >>> -anp | grep java” >>> >>> /etc/init.d/red5 >>> >>> start-stop-daemon --start -c root --pidfile $PIDFILE --chdir $RED5_HOME >>> --background --make-pidfile --exec $DAEMON >/dev/null 2>/dev/null & >>> >>> tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:8100 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3880/soffice.bin >>> >>> unix 2 [ ACC ] STREAM LISTENING 21314 3880/soffice.bin >>> /tmp/OSL_PIPE_0_SingleOfficeIPC_44e0c34da8623980ccf9f8299a62e4fb >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::1935 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::9999 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::8080 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN 3887/java >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57440 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java >>> >>> tcp6 0 0 192.168.1.123:57443 192.168.1.123:3306 ESTABLISHED 3887/java >>> >>> unix 2 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 21818 3887/java >>> >>> If I >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> George Kirkham >>> >>> IT Manager >>> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) >>> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia >>> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 >>> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 >>> >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >>> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> >>> >>> *From:*Mahmut TEKER [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 9 May 2012 8:49 AM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >>> >>> Hi George, >>> >>> I am using OM on port 80 and there is no problem. In fact I could not >>> understand your problem clearly. Can you post error messages or warnings >>> in the logs. That would make the issue clearer, I think. >>> >>> Moreover, there is an issue that, as I remember right, running >>> red5/openmeetings on a port below or equal 1200 requires to be root. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> >>> _Mahmut TEKER >>> >>> On 5/9/2012 12:23 AM, George Kirkham wrote: >>> >>> Stephen, >>> >>> The server is only for OpenMeetings, so no Apache running (or >>> installed), and nothing else on that port. >>> >>> I did find the difference, in my first server I was running openMeetings >>> as the root user, but with subsequent servers I had been using nobody. >>> Running OpenMeetings under nobody works well for port 5080, but not for >>> port 80, and I cannot understand why that might be. >>> >>> One thing I could try is to create a full account called “openmeetings” >>> which has a home directory and then try running OpenMeetings under this >>> account. Sometimes software requires an account with a home directory, >>> not just a dummy account. >>> >>> I believe the issue is related with OpenMeetings code somewhere, as the >>> Red5 server is running and accepting connections (root), just when you >>> try to run OpenMeetings itself, that fails. >>> >>> If I get success at any time, I will post back, but first I wanted to >>> learn if anyone was familiar with the issue, and it looks like everyone >>> else has their OpenMeetings servers either using port 5080 or are >>> successfully running under ‘nobody’. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> George Kirkham >>> >>> IT Manager >>> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) >>> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia >>> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 >>> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 >>> >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >>> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> >>> >>> *From:*Stephen Cottham [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 10:34 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* RE: <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >>> >>> You aren’t using Apache on the new Debian server are you? >>> >>> If Apache is running on port 80 then they will conflict. >>> >>> To aid in finding the problem, If you go here >>> >>> /usr/lib/red5 >>> >>> Then chmod 755 red5-debug.sh >>> >>> Then start it using the debug mode >>> >>> ./red5-debug.sh >>> >>> This will tell you more about why its failing to start. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> *Stephen Cottham** >>> *Group IT Manager (Associate) >>> >>> Robert Bird Group >>> Level 5, 333 Ann St >>> Brisbane, Queensland, 4000, Australia >>> >>> *Phone: +6173 319 2777 (AUS)* >>> >>> *Phone: +44207 592 8000 (UK)* >>> >>> *Fax: +6173 319 2799* >>> >>> *Mobile: +61400 756 963 (AUS)* >>> >>> *Mobile: +447900 918 616 (UK)* >>> >>> *Web: **www.robertbird.com* <http://www.robertbird.com/> >>> >>> <http://www.robertbird.com.au/> >>> >>> This email and any attachments are confidential and may contain legally >>> privileged information or copyright material. 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None of the sender >>> or its related entities accepts any liability for any consequential >>> damage resulting from this email containing computer viruses. >>> >>> >>> Disclaimer added by *CodeTwo Exchange Rules* >>> www.codetwo.com <http://www.codetwo.com> >>> >>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 8 May 2012 1:24 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* <red5httpport>80</red5httpport> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Has anyone had success/issues with using port 80 instead of port 5080. >>> >>> I have a number of Debian OpenMeetings servers. The first that I built I >>> have configured using port 80 instead of port 5080, and all works well. >>> >>> Since that time I have built a few more Debian OpenMeetings servers and >>> I cannot get any of them to work with port 80. I really do not think the >>> issue is with OpenMeetings or its configuration, because I can copy the >>> entire “red5” folder from the new servers to the first (working) server >>> and it will work on port 80. >>> >>> I am hoping that someone may have had similar issues and knows how to >>> resolved it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> George Kirkham >>> >>> IT Manager >>> >>> Cooperative Research Centre For Greenhouse Gas Technologies (CO2CRC) >>> >>> NFF House, 14 - 16 Brisbane Avenue, Barton, ACT, 2600, Australia >>> >>> T: (02) 6120 1600 >>> >>> F: (02) 6273 7181 >>> >>> E: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>, >>> >>> W: www.co2crc.com.au <http://www.co2crc.com.au> >>> >>> *From:*George Kirkham [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 9:19 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* RE: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files >>> >>> Thanks, Sebastian for your comments. It is good to know. >>> >>> George Kirkham >>> >>> *From:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> [mailto:[email protected]] >>> *Sent:* Monday, 7 May 2012 5:23 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: FW: Editing OpenMeetings language files >>> >>> Hi George, >>> >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? >>> => It makes it more easy to give a complete (but not fully translated) >>> file to translators. Lots of people tend to just download the >>> language-xml file and translate that. If those files are all incomplete >>> or certain labels are missing that this is just too confusing. >>> >>> The same English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other >>> languages >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? >>> => Yes you can fill them up in English and hope that some translators >>> will look into that file. Of course it might take months or even years >>> until really all languages are filled up. You could also use >>> translate.google.com <http://translate.google.com> and look for a >>> translation. >>> >>> Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to follow, >>> if so, please let me know. >>> => If you edit the XML files please don't add linebreaks (some editors >>> do that automatically), if you want to include a "save" linebreak you >>> would actually enter something like this: >>> >>> <br/> >>> >>> (this is XML encoded HTML linebreak "<br/>") >>> >>> >>> Sebastian >>> >>> 2012/5/6 George Kirkham <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> What is the correct process for adding a new item to the Language files >>> ? >>> >>> I have been informed that "If you add a new label we have a common >>> (undocumentated) rule: We add this label to all language files. You can >>> fill up other language files the english one. However all language files >>> should contain the same number of labels and not only a subset." >>> >>> What is it that I should add to all the other language files? The same >>> English item, and then hope those with knowledge of the other languages >>> modify for the languages that they are proficient in? Is there a way to >>> ask others to check and update any languages that they are proficient >>> in? Maybe there are other practices that I would be good for me to >>> follow, if so, please let me know. >>> >>> I noticed that the Japanese file has >>> <string id="262" name="salutation_miss"> >>> <value>Ms.</value> >>> </string> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> George Kirkham >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Sebastian Wagner >>> https://twitter.com/#!/dead_lock <https://twitter.com/#%21/dead_lock> >>> http://www.openmeetings.de >>> http://www.webbase-design.de >>> http://www.wagner-sebastian.com >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Daniel Ascher, M.Ed. > President > A+ Test Prep and Tutoring > "Creating Bright Futures" > > 505 York Road, Suite 6 > Jenkintown, PA 19046 > Office: 215.886.9188 > Direct: 267.242.9640 > www.aplustutoring.com
