Hey guys,

Don’t forget, that the following problem has to be solved for ${ui framework}:
How to deploy it as an OSGI bundle.

- Markus

> On 05 Jul 2016, at 16:00, Ronny Trommer <ro...@opennms.org> wrote:
> 
> This type of discussion would make sense to me for devjam.
> 
>> On 05.07.2016, at 15:54, Benjamin Reed <ran...@opennms.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 7/5/16 9:46 AM, Ronny Trommer wrote:
>>> I don’t have in general no idea, but as soon we don’t get to common
>>> understanding, you are are one person refactoring code in one
>>> direction where you think this is the way to go and five others do
>>> something totally differently cause every individual person thinks
>>> this is the way to go make no sense to me. It’s not making anything
>>> better :)
>> 
>> Vaadin has clearly been a mistake, IMHO.  It seems to be the worst
>> combination of JS and Java for our uses, and is almost untestable
>> without a TON of work unless you happen to be running on a perfect
>> system that doesn't hit its race conditions.  It was a great way to
>> reuse Java expertise to make a more modern webapp, and was a step up
>> from straight-up JSPs, but it's mostly a bunch of extra work to avoid
>> writing straight javascript, which a number of us are already
>> comfortable working in directly.  Having pure JS apps also forces us to
>> implement good ReST APIs for accessing data, which benefits everyone.
>> 
>> We *definitely* need to pick a standard and go with it... I am with
>> Alejandro on the AngularJS train, personally.  BUT, if we're going to
>> start using it more, we need to normalize our javascript build system
>> and codebase a lot.  There's already a lot of copy+paste duplication in
>> the newer controls Seth made, and a mishmash of Angular apps in
>> different places.
>> 
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