On 7/5/16 11:47 AM, Ronny Trommer wrote:
> The Vaadin apps cover right quite a large feature set of the Webapp.
> What would you think if someone tells you, it was nice but the last 2
> years of your life, you developed for the trashcan - I don’t think no
> developer wants to hear something like this. Even I don’t want to
> think about how much money came or went into the features developed
> with Vaadin. I don’t know the numbers exactly but I think David has a
> pretty good feeling about it.

I'm not saying that we need to immediately delete the Vaadin projects
and reinvest months of work to reimplement them with Angular. I think
that the biggest return on investment is replacing the legacy JSP/GWT
parts of the UI with Angular. It will make the UI look and function
better with less code and it will push us to enhance our REST
interfaces, which is a win for devops/CLI tools as well.

However it's worth considering that the ongoing maintenance on Vaadin is
pretty high: upgrades are painful (they have been in the topology app
anyway), the look-and-feel is difficult to match up with the rest of the
UI, etc.


> We don’t leverage from the modern Vaadin UI cause we can’t use it, we
> don’t leverage from modern Angular JS technology cause we can’t use
> it - We added bootstrap but we can’t leverage from it, cause we can’t
> really use it.

I don't agree with this. Is anyone frustrated because they can't fully
use Vaadin, Angular, or Bootstrap? We need to put in a
dependency/build/test framework for JS but otherwise, all of the tools
are ready today.


> on-boarding of new people is quite impossible cause nobody gets the
> the tech cruft.

REST + JS is going to be the easiest way to onboard cheap developers IMHO.

-- Seth

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