For information, I just added some explicit notes to the CombineContiguousRegions setting in OpenSim.ini.example saying
that it should be false for varregions.
On 19/02/15 06:10, Ian Sheldrick wrote:
Thanks, Dahlia... that does make sense, more or less... although in the way
that when you first launch a varregion it
allows building in the root 256^2 but not anywhere else, it's still in some way
treating the different 256^2 areas as
separate... but it's great to fly over my 1024^2 without a bump every 256
metres :P
On 19 February 2015 at 13:07, Dahlia Trimble <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
No, a varregion is a single region of variable size. A megaregion is a
single region that tries to mimic several
traditionally sized regions. Varregions require varregion-capable viewers
where megaregions should work with any viewer.
On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Ian Sheldrick <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I just started working with varregions and was a bit surprised about
the CombineContiguousRegions=false
setting. I know it works, but I don't quite understand the logic
because surely in a varregion what you have is
precisely a "combination of contiguous regions".
On 19 February 2015 at 10:48, CiderJack
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
As a matter of fact, after reading that megaregions have basically
been deprecated I did change to
varregion. However I didn't try it with an existing megaregion, I
started completely fresh. It works just
fine now, though so far it only seems to work in my local vanilla
OpenSim install.
Now I'm running into issues when uploading to Kitely. I've opened a
thread on Kitely forums if anyone is
curious:
http://www.kitely.com/forums/__viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2520
<http://www.kitely.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2520>
One further related question however:
I am assuming that 'CombineContiguousRegions' needs to be set to
'false' or disabled when using varregion.
Is this the case? When testing this, setting to 'true' seems to
cause problems for building outside the root
256^2. Just asking for clarity, at this point I don't know what to
expect anymore! :)
Thanks,
~!CJ
On 2015-02-19 14:33, Justin Clark-Casey wrote:
Have you tried switching to a varregion? I want to say that
you can
do this with an existing megaregion config and it will work
(don't
quote me). I do suggest doing this if at all possible.
I know there are load oar parameters [1] specifically for
loading
256x256 regions into a larger varregion. I don't know how well
they
would work for megaregions.
If you're doing something with Kitely then you would have to
ask them
directly as I hear they have proprietary megaregion code.
[1] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/__Load_Oar
<http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Load_Oar>
On 16/02/15 23:06, opensim.users@katijackstudio.__com
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks for the help, Chris.
I tried rezzing & editing on the regions with ephemeral
objects, and rezzed objects behave as
expected, that is, as normal.
I have tried saving & reloading the megaregion oar in
question, with no success. What I mean is, the
whole megaregion
saved/loaded as a single oar, but it didn't fix the problem.
Also tried it with 'fix-phantom' &
backup both before and
after, and even rebooted the server which didn't do the
trick either.
This would suggest (as you noted) that 256^2 regions cannot
be loaded individually into a megaregion
and still function,
although I think in some of my reading about this issue I
had seen where people were doing just that
and having it work
for them (I could be mistaken about this).
Can individual regions be saved from a megaregion as
individual oar files? Guess I need to test
that, because at this
point the only solution I can think is to completely
rebuild those three non-root-sims. :|
~!CJ
On 2015-02-16 19:55, Chris wrote:
I'm unsure of how an OAR would react if it was saved
from originally a
256x256 region and then loaded to a megaregion but can
you rez
anything from inventory and it be edit-able ? You could
also try
saving an OAR of the mega region with the stuff on it,
then reload
from that OAR, it may or may not help. Beyond that I am
unsure :)
On 2/16/2015 12:43 AM,
opensim.users@katijackstudio.__com
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
...and to answer the second part of your question,
after disabling megaregions, the
ephemeral objects are once again
corporeal -- that is, the data loads in the build
window, and they are no longer phantom...
On 2015-02-16 19:24,
opensim.users@katijackstudio.__com
<mailto:[email protected]> wrote:
Actually yes, I did enable megaregions with
everything in place BUT
after enabling, I then re-loaded each 256^2
region from individual oar
files, used 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' in the
console, and then saved
the whole megaregion oar. At this point the
objects on the
non-root-sim are phantom/ephemeral.
I then loaded other misc. oar files into all
four regions of the
megaregion, and then loaded the megaregion oar
again just to make sure
the oar file worked. Everything 'looks' like
it's there, but only the
objects on the root sim really are there.
Since the phantom/ephemeral issue is persisting
at this point, I then
do another 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup', waited
a few minutes then
rebooted the server. No change, problem
persists.
~!CJ
On 2015-02-16 18:55, Chris wrote:
Did you enable megaregions while you had
content on it? As far as I
know this has a tendency to break your
content if you enable it with
stuff rezzed out on your regions. What
happens if you disable
megaregions?
On 2/15/2015 11:39 PM,
opensim.users@katijackstudio.__com
<mailto:[email protected]>
wrote:
Been having a problem with objects not
on my root sim pretty much no longer
existing. Sometimes they look like
they're there, but when selected there
is no data in the build window, and the
avatar can pass right through them
like they're phantom. When loading the
oar to Kitely, the objects don't even
appear to be there, they're just gone.
I should start by saying that I've been
reading through the Kitely forum,
reading through the OS wiki page for
megaregions, followed references to
countless blog entries & other forums, and
they're all saying the same thing
-- use 'fix-phantoms', and then typing
'backup'.
I can save & load megaregions locally &
the non-root-sim objects will load up
(visually) but in substance there is
nothing there. But again, when I load
one of these 'working' megaregions to
Kitely, the objects don't even load
visually.
All I can find is telling me to use
'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' and that should
solve the problem. Unfortunately I
am not finding this to be the case. Is
there something I'm doing wrong?
I'm using OS 0.8.0.3.
~!CiderJack
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