Thanks, Dahlia... that does make sense, more or less... although in the way that when you first launch a varregion it allows building in the root 256^2 but not anywhere else, it's still in some way treating the different 256^2 areas as separate... but it's great to fly over my 1024^2 without a bump every 256 metres :P
On 19 February 2015 at 13:07, Dahlia Trimble <[email protected]> wrote: > No, a varregion is a single region of variable size. A megaregion is a > single region that tries to mimic several traditionally sized regions. > Varregions require varregion-capable viewers where megaregions should work > with any viewer. > > On Wed, Feb 18, 2015 at 9:01 PM, Ian Sheldrick <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> I just started working with varregions and was a bit surprised about the >> CombineContiguousRegions=false setting. I know it works, but I don't quite >> understand the logic because surely in a varregion what you have is >> precisely a "combination of contiguous regions". >> >> >> On 19 February 2015 at 10:48, CiderJack <[email protected] >> > wrote: >> >>> As a matter of fact, after reading that megaregions have basically been >>> deprecated I did change to varregion. However I didn't try it with an >>> existing megaregion, I started completely fresh. It works just fine now, >>> though so far it only seems to work in my local vanilla OpenSim install. >>> >>> Now I'm running into issues when uploading to Kitely. I've opened a >>> thread on Kitely forums if anyone is curious: >>> http://www.kitely.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2520 >>> >>> One further related question however: >>> I am assuming that 'CombineContiguousRegions' needs to be set to 'false' >>> or disabled when using varregion. Is this the case? When testing this, >>> setting to 'true' seems to cause problems for building outside the root >>> 256^2. Just asking for clarity, at this point I don't know what to expect >>> anymore! :) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> ~!CJ >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2015-02-19 14:33, Justin Clark-Casey wrote: >>> >>>> Have you tried switching to a varregion? I want to say that you can >>>> do this with an existing megaregion config and it will work (don't >>>> quote me). I do suggest doing this if at all possible. >>>> >>>> I know there are load oar parameters [1] specifically for loading >>>> 256x256 regions into a larger varregion. I don't know how well they >>>> would work for megaregions. >>>> >>>> If you're doing something with Kitely then you would have to ask them >>>> directly as I hear they have proprietary megaregion code. >>>> >>>> [1] http://opensimulator.org/wiki/Load_Oar >>>> >>>> On 16/02/15 23:06, [email protected] wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks for the help, Chris. >>>>> >>>>> I tried rezzing & editing on the regions with ephemeral objects, and >>>>> rezzed objects behave as expected, that is, as normal. >>>>> >>>>> I have tried saving & reloading the megaregion oar in question, with >>>>> no success. What I mean is, the whole megaregion >>>>> saved/loaded as a single oar, but it didn't fix the problem. Also >>>>> tried it with 'fix-phantom' & backup both before and >>>>> after, and even rebooted the server which didn't do the trick either. >>>>> >>>>> This would suggest (as you noted) that 256^2 regions cannot be loaded >>>>> individually into a megaregion and still function, >>>>> although I think in some of my reading about this issue I had seen >>>>> where people were doing just that and having it work >>>>> for them (I could be mistaken about this). >>>>> >>>>> Can individual regions be saved from a megaregion as individual oar >>>>> files? Guess I need to test that, because at this >>>>> point the only solution I can think is to completely rebuild those >>>>> three non-root-sims. :| >>>>> >>>>> ~!CJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2015-02-16 19:55, Chris wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm unsure of how an OAR would react if it was saved from originally a >>>>>> 256x256 region and then loaded to a megaregion but can you rez >>>>>> anything from inventory and it be edit-able ? You could also try >>>>>> saving an OAR of the mega region with the stuff on it, then reload >>>>>> from that OAR, it may or may not help. Beyond that I am unsure :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2/16/2015 12:43 AM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> ...and to answer the second part of your question, after disabling >>>>>>> megaregions, the ephemeral objects are once again >>>>>>> corporeal -- that is, the data loads in the build window, and they >>>>>>> are no longer phantom... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2015-02-16 19:24, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Actually yes, I did enable megaregions with everything in place BUT >>>>>>>> after enabling, I then re-loaded each 256^2 region from individual >>>>>>>> oar >>>>>>>> files, used 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' in the console, and then >>>>>>>> saved >>>>>>>> the whole megaregion oar. At this point the objects on the >>>>>>>> non-root-sim are phantom/ephemeral. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I then loaded other misc. oar files into all four regions of the >>>>>>>> megaregion, and then loaded the megaregion oar again just to make >>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>> the oar file worked. Everything 'looks' like it's there, but only >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> objects on the root sim really are there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Since the phantom/ephemeral issue is persisting at this point, I >>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>> do another 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup', waited a few minutes then >>>>>>>> rebooted the server. No change, problem persists. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ~!CJ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 2015-02-16 18:55, Chris wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Did you enable megaregions while you had content on it? As far as I >>>>>>>>> know this has a tendency to break your content if you enable it >>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>> stuff rezzed out on your regions. What happens if you disable >>>>>>>>> megaregions? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 2/15/2015 11:39 PM, [email protected] wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Been having a problem with objects not on my root sim pretty much >>>>>>>>>> no longer existing. Sometimes they look like >>>>>>>>>> they're there, but when selected there is no data in the build >>>>>>>>>> window, and the avatar can pass right through them >>>>>>>>>> like they're phantom. When loading the oar to Kitely, the objects >>>>>>>>>> don't even appear to be there, they're just gone. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I should start by saying that I've been reading through the >>>>>>>>>> Kitely forum, reading through the OS wiki page for >>>>>>>>>> megaregions, followed references to countless blog entries & >>>>>>>>>> other forums, and they're all saying the same thing >>>>>>>>>> -- use 'fix-phantoms', and then typing 'backup'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I can save & load megaregions locally & the non-root-sim objects >>>>>>>>>> will load up (visually) but in substance there is >>>>>>>>>> nothing there. But again, when I load one of these 'working' >>>>>>>>>> megaregions to Kitely, the objects don't even load >>>>>>>>>> visually. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> All I can find is telling me to use 'fix-phantoms' and 'backup' >>>>>>>>>> and that should solve the problem. Unfortunately I >>>>>>>>>> am not finding this to be the case. 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