Actually I think you are still stuck in thinking that the gadget runs on the servers... it's not, it's converted to a plain old HTML page, which as you know doesn't 'run' anywhere.
The gadget is just the HTML (+JS & CSS) view of what ever you're building, so if a user installs your gadget on his/her profile, any interaction with it should result in some communication with your server, and thus it will container all the information you need already.. May I suggest that perhaps you could go create a profile on orkut (or myspace, netlog, hi5, etc) and install a gadget there? it might help a lot to have a visual example. Then you can inspect it's HTML & JS code and get an idea of how this works. Also by looking at the tutorial I linked you this all should become a lot clearer :) Or if you prefer video, we have plenty of those on opensocial.org too, I would suggest starting with this one: http://www.opensocial.org/video/gdd08-london-opensocial -- Chris On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 1:10 PM, Nishanth Nair <nair.nisha...@gmail.com>wrote: > Ok Chris. So my requirement is that every day at 12AM, the gadget must send > data to my server. > So i need to schedule this inside the JS code in the gadget. AM I right? > Also, can u point me to a code snippet where during an event , say a new > friend is added, can trigger the gadget to > send the data to my server? > > Thanks a lot for your support. > > On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Chris Chabot <chab...@google.com> wrote: > >> No, actually the gadget talks to your server, and not the other way around >> :) >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:31 PM, Nishanth Nair >> <nair.nisha...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Chris, thanks a lot for the kind reply. >>> So to talk to the gadget, the request must be initiated from my server? >>> Cant the gadget send some data on its on , say when a new friend is >>> added, to my server(to behave like an alert?) >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Nishanth >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Chris Chabot <chab...@google.com> wrote: >>> >>>> An OpenSocial gadget is an xml file that contains js, css & html and not >>>> actually an 'application' as I think you're assuming it is. >>>> >>>> Because it's these basic web components, you can do anything you could >>>> do on a web page, but additionally there's a JavaScript API for common >>>> social operations like fetching profile information & friends, creating >>>> activities, etc. One of those API's is gadgets.io.makeRequest() which is >>>> basically an Ajax call, with which you can retrieve information from your >>>> own server. >>>> >>>> So there's no need for scheduled services, the web page like part is >>>> included in the xml file, and all the additional logic runs on your own >>>> servers. >>>> >>>> wiki.opensocial.org has lots of documentation available including: >>>> Basic tutorial: >>>> http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=OpenSocial_Tutorial >>>> Introduction to makeRequest: >>>> http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Introduction_to_makeRequest >>>> >>>> And tons more at: >>>> http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=Articles_%26_Tutorials >>>> >>>> -- Chris >>>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:33 AM, Nishanth Nair >>>> <nair.nisha...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Arne/other experts, >>>>> >>>>> I have couple more doubts regarding the Opensocial Gadgets. >>>>> >>>>> 1. If I create a gadget and install as an App in orkut and other SNS >>>>> which supports Opensocial, >>>>> will the gadget be able to push data to my server as a scheduled >>>>> service? >>>>> 2. Can the gadget pull information from my server or can I feed >>>>> information to the gadget as and when I like? >>>>> 3. Can you direct me to a small demo or a tutorial on the web which >>>>> does these 2 things? >>>>> 4. What are the common restrictions applied on gadgets by SNS. mainly >>>>> orkut mysapce hi5 etc? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks a lot for your help and continued support!! >>>>> >>>>> Nishanth >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Arne Roomann-Kurrik < >>>>> api.kur...@google.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Nishanth, >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 2, 7:55 am, Nishanth Nair <nair.nisha...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> > Hello experts, >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Here is what I need to achieve. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > - I need to create a single solution to read profile >>>>>> information,friends >>>>>> > list, scraps etc from profiles >>>>>> >>>>>> You can access all of this except for scraps from the OpenSocial REST/ >>>>>> RPC apis. Note that scraps are an orkut-specific concept, and not >>>>>> part of the OpenSocial specification. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > (I have user name and pasword for all the profiles from which I need >>>>>> info) >>>>>> > of all SNS which supports OpenSocial and store it my Database. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I just need the text data of these info to do some data based >>>>>> analysis with >>>>>> > the consent of the profile owners(they will provide their >>>>>> > >>>>>> > credentials to my software). >>>>>> >>>>>> This is a bad design. Asking users to supply their passwords is a bad >>>>>> idea, which is why OpenSocial uses OAuth to allow users to share their >>>>>> information with your application without giving up their password. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a page describing how OAuth allows your app to access user >>>>>> information in OpenSocial - >>>>>> http://wiki.opensocial.org/index.php?title=OAuth_Use_Cases >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Here are some questions that i have regarding this requirement. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 1. Can Shindig server help me in anyway to write a single solution >>>>>> which >>>>>> > will connect to all the 25+ SNS which supports Opensocial and get >>>>>> > >>>>>> > the above mentioned data from them? >>>>>> >>>>>> No, you need an OpenSocial client library to access social data from a >>>>>> network. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 2.Can Shindig server act as a single gadget rendering server for all >>>>>> the SNS >>>>>> > which supports Opensocial so that >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I dont have to install app individually on these sites? >>>>>> >>>>>> No, each of those networks utilizes a gadget renderer such as >>>>>> Shindig. As an app developer, you will not need to run Shindig. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 3.Do I need to write a gadget and install it as an App in all these >>>>>> SNS >>>>>> > manually and ask the users to add these apps to their profile >>>>>> > >>>>>> > and then only I can read data from thier profiles? >>>>>> >>>>>> For containers which only support 2-legged OAuth, you will need to >>>>>> have users add an app to their profile. For containers which support >>>>>> 3-legged OAuth, you will be able to allow users to share their >>>>>> information with your app without installing a gadget. >>>>>> >>>>>> In both cases, you will need to do some sort of registration with the >>>>>> container in order to get an OAuth consumer key and secret. >>>>>> >>>>>> > >>>>>> > 4.Is there anyway I can automatically install a gadget on a users >>>>>> profile if >>>>>> > have their username and password. >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't ask for their username and password. Doing what you described >>>>>> is equivalent to taking someone's email account information and >>>>>> subscribing them automatically to mailing lists. Use OAuth. If you >>>>>> need to prompt a user to install a gadget, most containers offer a URL >>>>>> you can link to where the user can approve the gadget for access - see >>>>>> http://osda.appspot.com for an example. >>>>>> >>>>>> > 5.can anybody propose a solution to achieve my goal? >>>>>> >>>>>> OAuth and the OpenSocial client libraries. >>>>>> >>>>>> > Thanks in advance... >>>>>> >>>>>> Sure, follow up if you have futher questions, >>>>>> ~Arne >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nishanth Nair >>>>> Mobile: 91-9008855133 >>>>> http://nishanthnair.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Regards, >>> Nishanth Nair >>> Mobile: 91-9008855133 >>> http://nishanthnair.com >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> > > > -- > Regards, > Nishanth Nair > Mobile: 91-9008855133 > http://nishanthnair.com > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OpenSocial Application Development" group. 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