I agree with all this considerations, and i'd like to see better apps at Orkut, it would give value to developers who are really investing in this market.
Eduardo pointed a subject that is not clear to me too, How do the Orkut App Ranking work? Thank you, Daniel Calife On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Eduardo Rocha <eduardoroch...@gmail.com>wrote: > > This app "odrible" now is being featured on 11th ranking position. Was > that a manual intervention on ranking? > > The "odrible" case is just an example, there are a lot more cases > around: > > Graffiti, 3th page, 371 weekly users. > Meu Cantinho, 8th page, 500 *daily* users. > > On 28 ago, 11:35, Eduardo Rocha <eduardoroch...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Erin, Amitabh, thank you very much for posting about this, I couldn't > > agree more. > > > > Just to remember, I have asked 3 months ago for corrected weekly > > numbers and patiently have been waiting for a "fix". That "fix" would > > be essential to discuss about the current ranking algorithm, which > > produces some very weird results. > > > > For example, apps that don't have a profile view seem to have a > > correct weekly number (Portuguese rankings): > > > > 8o: MindJolt Games, 771 WU (weekly users) > > 9o: OK Jogos: 940 WU > > 10: Merial Meu Pet: 883 WU > > > > In contrast to that, there is this "odrible" app with at least 10k > > users per week (data from the server), for about 76k installs, that > > is, a retention MUCH greater that any of the 1st page apps. And yet, > > it is only in 59th position in the directory!!! > > > > Unfortunately, it has been like this since the last ranking algorithm > > change back in March. It would be very interesting to know why the > > algorithm favours so much these three apps, for example. > > > > Thank you very much and nick weekend for all. > > > > On 25 ago, 06:22, Amitabh Sharma <sharma.amit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I agree with erin, > > > It would be very helpful on orkut team's part to have some > sort > > > of regulation on the apps. More importantly i have hardly seen the > orkut dev > > > guidelines being followed, if it is impossible for orkut team to > monitor > > > everything, then i suggest a community be delegated the powers at least > to > > > report such apps to, which can further take up the matter with orkut > team if > > > it deems necessary. > > > > > Also, if we could consider the app directory listings, the listings are > > > based on most number of installs .There are apps with hundreds of > thousands > > > of installs but hardly a couple of thousand daily active users and > being > > > listed on the front page. > > > > > I request orkut developer team to consider and address some of these > issues. > > > > > - Amit > > > > > On Tue, Aug 25, 2009 at 1:15 PM, Erin Thomas <erinthomas1...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I would like to bring to your notice that there are a lot of > fake/fradulent > > > > applications that are running on Orkut, like people stealing other > people's > > > > XML's with the same name and re-submitting the application, same apps > > > > repeated for more than once. I dont have any personal grudge against > these > > > > developers.My intentions are clear, I feel Orkut should be more > responsible > > > > while approving apps, Also you should strictly remove apps which dont > have > > > > any sense or which are not working by monitoring them once in a > > > > while.Otherwise *alot of talented developers who make their best > efforts > > > > day and night in making outstanding apps for Orkut alone will not be > > > > appreciated for their hardwork, as you guys dont even care the > quality of > > > > the apps you approve,the best ones are always pushed to the back > pages and > > > > are not even viewed by other Orkut Users. Dont approve apps just for > the > > > > sake of showing more count of apps in Orkut than any other social > networking > > > > site.* > > > > > > - One such user is* Swarnava Sengupta* > > > > > > You can see his apps here > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=Sw... > > > >> His first application "Send Scrap to All", is repeated at the 4th > postion > > > >> on the same page mentioned above.Once you click this app > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appId=444304650431&ref=SR,the > > > >> name of the app changes to "Stop Woking",whereas the repeat app > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appId=705523577439&ref=SRdoesnt > > > >> even work,but gives an error "Unable to retrieve: > > > >> > http://hosting.gmodules.com/ig/gadgets/file/114699564936817898687/wor... > > > >> ". > > > >> The same is the problem with "Remind Me - Absolutely Free SMS > > > >> Reminder",which shows the error "Unsupported feature: > > > >> org.apache.shindig.common.xml.XmlException: Content is not allowed > in > > > >> prolog. At: (1,1)". > > > > > >> - * Some of the Apps that are repeated in the directory:* > > > > > >> 1. > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=IF... > > > >> 2. > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=RE... > > > >> 3. > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=BU... > > > >> 4. > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=DR... > > > >> 5. > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=UL... > > > > > >> There are more repeated apps..Right now I've managed to find these > > > >> only..will post more if you need. > > > > > > - *Violating Orkut's Policy:* > > > > > > This app is using google's logo and also it doesnt work at all. > > > > > > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppInfo.aspx?appId=20062620106 > > > > > >> - *In Movies and TV category:* > > > > > >> There are a lot of apps which doesnt even make any > > > >> sense..like Katrina Kaif Photo Gallery,Angelina Jolie > Gallery,Aishwarya Rai > > > >> Gallery,Preity Zinta,Ayesha Takia,Deepika Padukone..Why do you make > it too > > > >> simple for people to make apps by just showing celebrities photos > gallery? > > > > > >> App developer Prashant,Smita,Orkutfans has the most number of > celebrity > > > >> gallery apps..It a shame to see all these apps being approved in > Orkut. > > > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=pr... > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=smita > > > > > >> > http://www.orkut.co.in/Main#AppDirectory.aspx?dirFilters=&dirQuery=or... > > > > > >> *This is really ridiculous..* > > > >> Why do you approve all these spammer's apps? All other websites > > > >> like (Facebook,MySpace,Bebo,Ning,Friendster,Hi5) which use the > opensocial > > > >> apis make sure they approve quality apps for their websites.Why > can't Orkut > > > >> make sure only good apps are running on their website?Also *Try to > filter > > > >> out the repeated apps from the directory.* > > > > > >> Hope you guys will look into this matter as soons as possible.Please > dont > > > >> discourage genuine developers. > > > > > >> Thanks& Regards, > > > >> Erin > > > -- Daniel Calife www.colorcubegames.net --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Orkut Developer Forum" group. 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