On 09/03/08 22:17, John Plocher wrote: > Garrett D'Amore wrote: >> I thought John officially derailed it. >> >> At this point, if John doesn't derail it, then I will -- if only so >> that we can offer some much needed advice. > > > My afternoon has been pretty hectic, and I am just now > following up on the dozen or so things I should have > gotten done earlier... > > After some more thought, derailing the case is premature; > stopping the clock and keeping it from auto-approving before > the compiler team's perspective is injected into the > conversation is what is important. > > So, the case is in "waiting need spec" state, waiting for > Steve and Stefan (and whomever else feels the spirit moving > in them) to mind-meld... > > I would like to hear back from Stefan and Steve on their > discussion; in particular, if they still have a large > disconnect. To Bart's comment, after the mind meld, I > would like Steve to come up with a more ARC-actionable > list of concerns if he still feels that this case should > derail into a full review. > > -John
As we were requested to do, Stefan and I are conducting an off-line discussion of the issues. Garrett D'Amore and John Fischer asked to be included in the discussion. I can forward copies of the email exchanges so far to anyone else who is interested, and include you in future cc lists. The short version of my position is that the Apache headers and runtime libraries should not be part of an ON consolidation, but should be provided by the Sun Studio compiler team. The headers should be part of the compiler, not installed in /usr/include, and the runtime libraries should be delivered into Solaris by the Sun Studio team just as other C++ runtime libraries are currently delivered. The C++ compiler team already has plans to do what I suggest, but we were planning to do it in a future compiler release. We could move more quickly, if necessary. --- Steve Clamage, stephen.clamage at sun.com