On 03/22/10 10:08 AM, Nicolas Williams wrote: > On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 09:46:27AM -0700, Darren Reed wrote: > >> On 22/03/10 07:21 AM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >> >>> Milan Jurik wrote: >>> >>>> Alan Coopersmith p??e v p? 19. 03. 2010 v 16:39 -0700: >>>> >>>>> Garrett D'Amore wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I'm also of the opinion that it is a mistake to sacrifice familiarity >>>>>> for our paying Solaris 10 customers in favor of familiarity for people >>>>>> coming from Linux. >>>>>> >>>>> But clearly all our paying Solaris 10 customers already have dotfiles to >>>>> set $PATH, given how useless the default Solaris 10 $PATH is. >>>>> >>>> I would be very carefull with claiming "all our paying Solaris 10 >>>> customers"... >>>> >>> Okay, make it "Any Solaris 10 customer (paying or not) who actually wants >>> to use the system" - given the lack of some basic commands in the default >>> path, such as /usr/sbin/ping or /usr/ccs/bin/make, the Solaris 10 default >>> PATH shows we've long required customers to change the default PATH to >>> actually make the system usable to either sysadmins or developers. >>> >> And...? >> >> I doubt there exists a system where system administrators >> and/or developers don't customise their path. Go back and >> read Octave Orgeron's email. >> > Moreover, the new default path is backed into the user's dot files at > account creation time. > > If you deploy Solaris Next in an environment where user accounts already > exist then those will be completely unaffected. > > I don't understand the sturm un drang over the /usr/gnu/bin-first-in- > default-PATH thing. It's a NON-ISSUE (except for GNU tools like ls and > chmod where lack of support for Solaris-specific features creates > problems. >
And "cp". And make. And.... This issue is not something "small". Lets take the discussion where it belongs in 2010/067, since that's the case that proposed the /usr/gnu path change. - Garrett > Nico >