On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, Alan DuBoff wrote:

> On Thursday 20 April 2006 06:19 am, Dennis Clarke wrote:
> > Some people are soooo stuck in thinking "it still works and so we are not
> > going to fix it" attitude.  When I see yet another E4000 ( not E4500 )
> > running Oracle for 70 people I just want to scream.  Really.  Running
> > Solaris 8 of course.  Its maddening when I _know_ they can get a X2100 with
> > a pile of RAM and support and totally replace the box.  The electricity
> > savings alone will justify the increase in throughput.
> >
> > Drives me mad.  Or at least more mad.
> 
> Understood, but it's at least worth pondering how Sun's customers running 
> these legacy systems will move forward. Eventually they'll need to upgrade. 
> Will they replace with new SPARC systems, or will they replace with new 
> systems of another architecture. Solaris now offers them more options, and 
> other architectures offer more options other than Solaris. Wether these folks 
> keep these systems on Solaris or not will be determined. My guess is that 
> commodity hardware running Solaris will be the most attractive for those 
> folks.

It has nothing to do with "it works, so why fix it?"

The reality is that (sane, anyway ;-) customers will replace systems (on 
their normal replacement cycle; quicker if cost savings or performance 
needs justify) gear with whatever is supported by the ISV that supplied 
the app that sits on them. I have racks of boxes just like the ones Dennis 
describes -- old Ultrasparc II / III gear, Solaris 8. I'd love to move 
those systems to Sun's AMD64 hardware and Solaris 10. I'd even love to 
move them to Solaris 10 on Sparc. I can't do either if I want application 
support

I almost wish Sun would go ahead and EOL Solaris 8 to force a little 
movement on the ISV front ;-). That, and Oracle not double-licensing for 
UltraIVs, are my pipe dreams for the year

later,
chris
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